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Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Mack11 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:48 pm

I see him rolling on pick n rolls or just posted up like a boss in the post, yet our players show him that disrespect by passing it to turdnani whos obviously camped at the 3 waiting to take his brick

do our players not trust him yet or whats the deal
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby STA 13 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:49 pm

He doesnt have great natural offensive talent IMO. Doesnt have the natural footwork and touch of a guy who is going to be an offensive force.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby TheGoodDoctor on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:50 pm

He's no Hedo Turkuglu.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Crazy-Canuck on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:51 pm

val is all elbows, he needs to get stronger.

He' looked pretty bad when trying to create for himself today. I think he flourishes as a Noah, Krusty type player and not the post up face up guy on offense. The kid is so active that he'd be a pain in the ass to kepp off the boards.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Left Side Drive on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:55 pm

He got no moves yet. But seriously not his fault we can't score.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Mack11 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Left Side Drive wrote:He got no moves yet. But seriously not his fault we can't score.



not puttin the blame on him but i feel for him working so hard on d and hustling on offence for position but just gets ignored every trip down the floor
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Scraptor on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:00 pm

STA 13 wrote:He doesnt have great natural offensive talent IMO. Doesnt have the natural footwork and touch of a guy who is going to be an offensive force.


He had some legendary finishing rate on rolling to the rim in Europe. His iso game is raw but we should at least be hitting him on the roll. I think Jose and Lowry have been reluctant to do so because of how nervous he looks in the isos but someone has to get them to let him finish in the paint.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Left Side Drive on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:00 pm

Mack11 wrote:
Left Side Drive wrote:He got no moves yet. But seriously not his fault we can't score.



not puttin the blame on him but i feel for him working so hard on d and hustling on offence for position but just gets ignored every trip down the floor

Pretty sure Casey doesn't trust him at all on offense. The players probably see that he is open but the shots are already assigned to our 2-3 options.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Dr Positivity on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:03 pm

He was at 12.8 FGA per 36 before this game, that's solid volume for a rookie...
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby GreatWhiteStiff on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:21 pm

I mean he's not finishing at a super high percentage or anything either. If he was shooting like 52-60% I see there being a lot more of an argument here. I hope he increases his percentages, gets more trust and respect, and gets more touches as the season goes on.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Mack11 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:26 pm

If hes not there for offence, whys he starting then? wouldnt it be best to keep him on the bench till late in the game where we actually need his defence rather than pickin up his usual 2 quick fouls which leave him glued to the bench
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby TiKusDom on Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:25 pm

cause he sucks on offense apart from putbacks and dunks
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby vossy_3 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:51 pm

The whole offense sucks. If you watch the spurs, they run plays thats gets everyone involved on offense. The raptors (coach casey) seems to think derozen is lebron and bargnani is dirk and no one else needs to touch the ball. The first 5 minutes today and val or mcquire didn't touch the ball once, pretty hard to play confidently when your completely ignored all the time.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Undefeated on Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:57 pm

He lacks the polish and defenses often will send over an extra defender to double him at the markers when he has the ball on a post-up forcing him to pass out of the double because he isn't exactly a proficient passer passing out of trouble against trap and it usually results in a turnover. According to SynergySports he has a turnover rate of 23.1% which is godly high, so that's probably why the team doesn't trust him lol. And he needs to stop swinging his elbows.

However, there shouldn't be any excuses as to why he's getting looked off when he dives to the rim after slipping the screen. He's got hands of glue being able to catch the ball in any awkward position.
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Re: Why doesnt Jonas get the ball more?

Postby Inevitable on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:01 pm

STA 13 wrote:He doesnt have great natural offensive talent IMO. Doesnt have the natural footwork and touch of a guy who is going to be an offensive force.


He get's great positioning, so that shows he knows how to use his size. He also shows he can hit mid-range jump shots. He just doesn't look comfortable on the low-block but is progressing faster than expected.
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