United Fan Base

[VinBaker6]

Relatively new dude around here (got banned by Celtic Mods for trollin them bout Ray Allen re-signing in the summer lmao).

I don't post often but we as a fan base (including myself) are so player oriented. I can't name a single Raptor Fan I know that is supportive of the team as a whole. I totally get player bashing (Yea, Luigi has been horrible) but when it gets to a guy like DeMar whose been playin great ball, any minor slip-up and we are all calling for his head. I'm not expecting blind homers but it gets outta hand. IMO, the most consistently hated Raptor for the past (almost) decade has been Jose. Yes the dude has faults but you get people that will bash him every single game regardless of how he plays.The guy plays his heart out every night yet fans will always hate him. He never offered him self that money. I remember Ray Allen said in an interview that he hates when fans boo players; no guy goes out there trying to lose. Fans have a right to boo/hate but the Raptor fan base (especially here) is nuts.

I totally get that losing has taken a toll on this fan base but goddammit it even after a win people will hate. We will blindly support JV but consistently hate on Jose/Luigi/DeMar. I don't get it. All the other fans of other teams do not go to the extent we go. The hate is simply crazy.

My point is we need to stop being so damn negative all the time and support the team. The only individual IMO who we should consistently bash is BC (and honestly I get it with Bargs).

JV, I really hope you develop into a star quick, before this fan base turns on you.

Seriously, lets go Raptors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 should be easy games comin up, we need to build some momentum, get at least 2 outta these 3 coming.

[Hero]

My point is we need to stop being so damn negative all the time and support the team. The only individual IMO who we should consistently bash is BC (and honestly I get it with Bargs).

JV, I really hope you develop into a star quick, before this fan base turns on you.

Not everyone is negative. Just go look at GB and the rookie impression thread. You'd think Ross has been as good as Lillard and Jonas as good as Davis. Plenty of blind raptor fans still about .

We need more negativity and to stop putting up with mediocrity like Bargnani etc. BC should have been fired a long time ago. It makes no sense to be irrationally positive about a team that has been plain terrible for years and that has been overpaying players to no end.

[MEDIC]

.....the most consistently hated Raptor for the past (almost) decade has been Jose. Yes the dude has faults but you get people that will bash him every single game regardless of how he plays.

That's not true at all. People got fed up with Jose after Bosh left. Before that, there weren't a lot of issues.

Bargnani by far has been the biggest target.

People are just fed up with things not going our way. Fans want to see a winning team. Things haven't been good around here since VC took us to the playoffs. That's a long, long time ago....

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

Imo, better the hate go on Andrea and Jose than others because it won't bother them. JV is getting the reverse of the what Andrea got on his rookie year. People looked at Andrea as an asset that had to help convince CB to stay and compliment him. For many reasons, the opposite is true, with JV. JV's a rook, so he's gonna have some tough moments, you want to see potential and improvement, but we've been talking like he's a blessing for our D and he hasn't been, he's just shown the potential to be. Right now, it seems like he's giving up a high percentage of looks in the post. He's rebounding well though and he's a great foul shooter. That alone, plus his motor will give him an earned spot in a rotation.

[FreshyFlames]

.....the most consistently hated Raptor for the past (almost) decade has been Jose. Yes the dude has faults but you get people that will bash him every single game regardless of how he plays.

That's not true at all. People got fed up with Jose after Bosh left. Before that, there weren't a lot of issues.

Bargnani by far has been the biggest target.

People are just fed up with things not going our way. Fans want to see a winning team. Things haven't been good around here since VC took us to the playoffs. That's a long, long time ago....

Alot of people were fed up with Jose before that.

[Indeed]

Jose lost his footstep, otherwise, he can be a good player. Jose is still great in spot up situation, and controlling the temple. But I guess the hate comes from his over dribble more than his defense. The most hated by far is Bargnani, even Sullinger has his offensive rebound against Davis with Bargnani on the bench, some people can claim its on Bargnani (clearly showed in gamelog).

As for Jonas and Ross, they are not as raw as DeRozan and Davis. Jonas already has a close range, while Davis just added that this summer, so our talent level before Jonas and Ross have been really low. We count on Bargnani and Calderon to carry the team (Bargnani the season before, and Calderon last season), so the hate towards them are by far the worst, and at some point towards DeRozan on the previous season. It is hard to blame them when the overall talent is lacking (eg. worst 3 point shooting team, and both Bargnani and Calderon are the best this season, outside of Lowry).

[22haytham22]

Were truthful not negative

[triplemke23]

My point is we need to stop being so damn negative all the time and support the team. The only individual IMO who we should consistently bash is BC (and honestly I get it with Bargs).

JV, I really hope you develop into a star quick, before this fan base turns on you.

Not everyone is negative. Just go look at GB and the rookie impression thread. You'd think Ross has been as good as Lillard and Jonas as good as Davis. Plenty of blind raptor fans still about .

We need more negativity and to stop putting up with mediocrity like Bargnani etc. BC should have been fired a long time ago. It makes no sense to be irrationally positive about a team that has been plain terrible for years and that has been overpaying players to no end.

[Mack11]

i think we're all united in getting bargs the hell outta here

[Dr Octagon]

My point is we need to stop being so damn negative all the time and support the team. The only individual IMO who we should consistently bash is BC (and honestly I get it with Bargs).

JV, I really hope you develop into a star quick, before this fan base turns on you.

Not everyone is negative. Just go look at GB and the rookie impression thread. You'd think Ross has been as good as Lillard and Jonas as good as Davis. Plenty of blind raptor fans still about .

We need more negativity and to stop putting up with mediocrity like Bargnani etc. BC should have been fired a long time ago. It makes no sense to be irrationally positive about a team that has been plain terrible for years and that has been overpaying players to no end.

It's the truth.

[MEDIC]

.....the most consistently hated Raptor for the past (almost) decade has been Jose. Yes the dude has faults but you get people that will bash him every single game regardless of how he plays.

That's not true at all. People got fed up with Jose after Bosh left. Before that, there weren't a lot of issues.

Bargnani by far has been the biggest target.

People are just fed up with things not going our way. Fans want to see a winning team. Things haven't been good around here since VC took us to the playoffs. That's a long, long time ago....

Alot of people were fed up with Jose before that.

Sure there were. There were the PG controversies.......but it didn't dominate the board like the Bargnani hate did (basically since his rookie year). Andrea was a number 1 pick. Jose was a no-name euroleague FA pickup. The expectation level wasn't the same.

The biggest issue wih Jose over the years has been the contract he was given. If he had been paid appropriately by our GM & given an appropriate role, few people would have an issue with him.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I may dislike some players more than others, but I do support them all as a Raptor fan.

[Left Side Drive]

i think we're all united in getting bargs the hell outta here

[Volcano]

There's much less DD hate.

Jose hate is uncalled for. His problem is lack of talent/ability. It's the management's fault Jose has a bigger role than he can take. It's the coaches fault for having 2 PG line-ups with Jose in.

Bargnani hate is well deserved. His problem is lack of effort/work ethic. Supporting him would be the same as going against the Raptors.

JVal gets a pass because he's a rookie and will need a few years to develop.

[Rejected]

It looks like we are united around trading Bargnani.