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Post#16 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:05 pm by Dr Positivity

Honestly just trade him for an expiring contract. I'd be down for a Bargnani for JJ Hickson and Shawne Williams trade. POR needs bench scoring
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Post#17 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:06 pm by Snooch

Tyrone Slothrop wrote:
Snooch wrote:this just goes to show why raptor fans are the laughingstock of the league.


also adds to why people dont want to sign here...

shameful, really is, just shameful


So Laker fans doing the same thing with a future hall-of-famer is going to lead to players not wanting to sign in L.A.? Good to know.


they arent doing anything outside of message boards, with a few douches on twitter, and lal has a fantastic history, decades of excellence, and we have the vc era. Huge fn difference
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Post#18 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:08 pm by Phenomenologist

Snooch wrote:Has nothing to do with bargnani as a person, as an athlete as a performer in todays game.




First off:

like anyone in a position to do anything is going to listen to a bunch of people on twitter to make a business decision. Might as well picket the game if you want to really make a difference. If you're going to do it, do it **** right. cost the organization money, of course then you run the risk of the raptors not being profitable in the current location but oh well, the guys will be moved.


Secondly:\
People seriously need to evalute what constitues being a fan, and the impact that has throughout the league. All this nonsense being put out there only make the fanbase, to an outside, look like a hostile place. jeez, even the nyk fans dont try to run players out of town, and show support as long as they are wearing jersey. Dont think for one second that players dont talk to others, they dont see this twatter crap etc. I for one want people to think the raps organization and fanbase is great, not so condescending and what have you done for me lately.


More like what have you done for me ... ever?
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Post#19 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:08 pm by wtfbosh

Dr Positivity wrote:Honestly just trade him for an expiring contract. I'd be down for a Bargnani for JJ Hickson and Shawne Williams trade. POR needs bench scoring


Why would they take on $12 mil worth of salary for a bench player? I'll be surprised if we don't get a Wilson Chandler/Charlie Villanueva type contract back in return for Bargs.

is it possible to amnesty someone in the middle of the season?
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Post#20 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:12 pm by Beardman

Snooch wrote:this just goes to show why raptor fans are the laughingstock of the league.


also adds to why people dont want to sign here...

shameful, really is, just shameful

Other fanbases do this to their players all the time. People were calling for Melo's head on twitter when Lin signed with HOU.
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Post#21 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:13 pm by raps4589

#tradebargnani #releasecalderon #fire bc #firecasey #firegherahini #releasefields
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Post#22 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:13 pm by JackedFinancier

Snooch wrote:Has nothing to do with bargnani as a person, as an athlete as a performer in todays game.




First off:

like anyone in a position to do anything is going to listen to a bunch of people on twitter to make a business decision. Might as well picket the game if you want to really make a difference. If you're going to do it, do it **** right. cost the organization money, of course then you run the risk of the raptors not being profitable in the current location but oh well, the guys will be moved.


Secondly:\
People seriously need to evalute what constitues being a fan, and the impact that has throughout the league. All this nonsense being put out there only make the fanbase, to an outside, look like a hostile place. jeez, even the nyk fans dont try to run players out of town, and show support as long as they are wearing jersey. Dont think for one second that players dont talk to others, they dont see this twatter crap etc. I for one want people to think the raps organization and fanbase is great, not so condescending and what have you done for me lately.


Your loyalty to this team is commendable. As is your desire to represent this fanbase in a respectable manner. However, it has gotten to a point where it is unacceptable. What are you expecting? Are you expecting the fanbase to sit at the edge of their seats with a blind eye? I just don't understand what the issue is in regards to fans wanting a change. We may not cause change, but our voices will certainly be heard within the GTA.

Ultimately, the issue is accountability. How does this carry on so long? Can it not be any more clear how Bargnani's poor play has a negative impact on this basketball team? It's blatantly obvious. So the question becomes, why isn't anything being done? It goes beyond these first 13 games. It stretches back to last year and the year before. He is a piss poor rebounder and a low % volume SG in a PF/C's body. He is redundant. He is absolutely unnecessary. He is a great guy with a good heart, but that is not going to get us anywhere. Last year we painfully watched this team slug it out on the court when it was obvious then that Bargnani and even Calderon are not fit for this basketball team. There is so much dysfunction on this team it scares me. From Bryan's piss poor decision making to Dwayne's lack of intelligence/basketball intuition (rotations, knowing who to play at what time) to Bargnani's pathetic display of shot selection (22 footers, wild drives to the rim, etc).

The damage has been done. The team has had their fun. It's over. A change needs to be made. The next problem will be the players losing the coach. Because they certainly will in regards to the disparity of who deserves playing time vs. who is actually getting playing time.
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Post#23 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:14 pm by BCfortheWin

wtfbosh wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Honestly just trade him for an expiring contract. I'd be down for a Bargnani for JJ Hickson and Shawne Williams trade. POR needs bench scoring


Why would they take on $12 mil worth of salary for a bench player? I'll be surprised if we don't get a Wilson Chandler/Charlie Villanueva type contract back in return for Bargs.

is it possible to amnesty someone in the middle of the season?


Id be up for trading bargs for tyreke evans. That deal is almost 100% doable. Tyreke can come off the bench, and we can only hope his game would be reignited. And the other advantage is the obvious addition by subtraction in the starting lineup. I can see ed davis being very good beside val
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Post#24 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:17 pm by AndreasLeftCalf

Snooch wrote:this just goes to show why raptor fans are the laughingstock of the league.


also adds to why people dont want to sign here...

shameful, really is, just shameful


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Post#25 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:17 pm by Waylon Mercy

Snooch wrote:Has nothing to do with bargnani as a person, as an athlete as a performer in todays game.




First off:

like anyone in a position to do anything is going to listen to a bunch of people on twitter to make a business decision. Might as well picket the game if you want to really make a difference. If you're going to do it, do it **** right. cost the organization money, of course then you run the risk of the raptors not being profitable in the current location but oh well, the guys will be moved.


Secondly:\
People seriously need to evalute what constitues being a fan, and the impact that has throughout the league. All this nonsense being put out there only make the fanbase, to an outside, look like a hostile place. jeez, even the nyk fans dont try to run players out of town, and show support as long as they are wearing jersey. Dont think for one second that players dont talk to others, they dont see this twatter crap etc. I for one want people to think the raps organization and fanbase is great, not so condescending and what have you done for me lately.


I hope when Bargnani gets traded you go with him
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Post#26 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:21 pm by cl2268

#Tradecalderon should be trending also, if not more
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Post#27 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:23 pm by Snooch

JackedFinancier wrote:
Snooch wrote:Has nothing to do with bargnani as a person, as an athlete as a performer in todays game.




First off:

like anyone in a position to do anything is going to listen to a bunch of people on twitter to make a business decision. Might as well picket the game if you want to really make a difference. If you're going to do it, do it **** right. cost the organization money, of course then you run the risk of the raptors not being profitable in the current location but oh well, the guys will be moved.


Secondly:\
People seriously need to evalute what constitues being a fan, and the impact that has throughout the league. All this nonsense being put out there only make the fanbase, to an outside, look like a hostile place. jeez, even the nyk fans dont try to run players out of town, and show support as long as they are wearing jersey. Dont think for one second that players dont talk to others, they dont see this twatter crap etc. I for one want people to think the raps organization and fanbase is great, not so condescending and what have you done for me lately.


Your loyalty to this team is commendable. As is your desire to represent this fanbase in a respectable manner. However, it has gotten to a point where it is unacceptable. What are you expecting? Are you expecting the fanbase to sit at the edge of their seats with a blind eye? I just don't understand what the issue is in regards to fans wanting a change. We may not cause change, but our voices will certainly be heard within the GTA.

Ultimately, the issue is accountability. How does this carry on so long? Can it not be any more clear how Bargnani's poor play has a negative impact on this basketball team? It's blatantly obvious. So the question becomes, why isn't anything being done? It goes beyond these first 13 games. It stretches back to last year and the year before. He is a piss poor rebounder and a low % volume SG in a PF/C's body. He is redundant. He is absolutely unnecessary. He is a great guy with a good heart, but that is not going to get us anywhere. Last year we painfully watched this team slug it out on the court when it was obvious then that Bargnani and even Calderon are not fit for this basketball team. There is so much dysfunction on this team it scares me. From Bryan's piss poor decision making to Dwayne's lack of intelligence/basketball intuition (rotations, knowing who to play at what time) to Bargnani's pathetic display of shot selection (22 footers, wild drives to the rim, etc).

The damage has been done. The team has had their fun. It's over. A change needs to be made. The next problem will be the players losing the coach. Because they certainly will in regards to the disparity of who deserves playing time vs. who is actually getting playing time.


I agree, but doing this stuff only makes the fanbase look like morons. \leave that for the front office.

As dumb, idiotic, stupid, naive whatever else applies to me as i am, i am 1 billion percent certain that everyone involved in this organization from top to bottom want nothing more than to win. nothing more. and also everyone in the organization know exactly what the impact each and every player has on the floor. I am certain that bc is taking call daily on each player and knows their value on the market, and is contemplating daily ways to improve the team.

Say what you want about bc, mlse etc, they are proud, want to win, cause no matter what if a team is winning it makes more money. and money drives business. Winning makes money. they will make neccessary changes
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Post#28 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:25 pm by 3thomas

Dr Positivity wrote:Honestly just trade him for an expiring contract. I'd be down for a Bargnani for JJ Hickson and Shawne Williams trade. POR needs bench scoring


What do you think Jay Triano will tell his boss about Bargnani? Do you think he will give this trade a thumbs up!
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Post#29 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:29 pm by fredericklove

Not sure if this will work but we need to design a realgm team with maximum of 300 posters wearing realgm shirts at the ACC, specific target and objective are to boo Andrea everytime he touches the ball. That is so much better.
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Post#30 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:31 pm by 3thomas

BCfortheWin wrote:
wtfbosh wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Honestly just trade him for an expiring contract. I'd be down for a Bargnani for JJ Hickson and Shawne Williams trade. POR needs bench scoring


Why would they take on $12 mil worth of salary for a bench player? I'll be surprised if we don't get a Wilson Chandler/Charlie Villanueva type contract back in return for Bargs.

is it possible to amnesty someone in the middle of the season?


Id be up for trading bargs for tyreke evans. That deal is almost 100% doable. Tyreke can come off the bench, and we can only hope his game would be reignited. And the other advantage is the obvious addition by subtraction in the starting lineup. I can see ed davis being very good beside val


I'd be very open to expanding that deal to include Ross and Robinson and or draft picks
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Post#31 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:32 pm by HEDOBALL

first of all, it was

#tradebarghani not #tradebargnani
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Post#32 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:37 pm by Phalosopher

fredericklove wrote:Not sure if this will work but we need to design a realgm team with maximum of 300 posters wearing realgm shirts at the ACC, specific target and objective are to boo Andrea everytime he touches the ball. That is so much better.

Another pre-puberty commentary from the prince of pre-puberty commentary :nonono:
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Post#33 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:38 pm by HomieOmey

Boo him at home games, please. The message needs to be sent that Bargnani needs to be benched if he's not producing or putting in any effort. If it becomes clear that the fans are not supporting him during games, I'm sure he'd quickly get traded anyway.

However, I agree that the twitter route is a bad idea. More likely to reflect poorly on us and our city.
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Post#34 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:38 pm by rapsfan26

Being a Raptors fan is like the boat scene from Godfather Pt. II. Colangelo keeping Bargnani on this roster is killing this team
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Post#35 Re: #Tradebargnani
Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:43 pm by Phalosopher

rapsfan26 wrote:Being a Raptors fan is like the boat scene from Godfather Pt. II. Colangelo keeping Bargnani on this roster is killing this team

Casey was to blame tonite..he should have had his butt stuck on the bench....unless that IS Casey's grand plan to have himself rid of this dude and show Colangelo up!
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