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Which draft do you want?

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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#16 » by The Duke » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:51 pm

I would choose getting a top 3 pick in 2013.

plus

the possibility of still getting Wiggins next season with #1 pick.

FYI -- this is a possibility in case ppl didnt know.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#17 » by Meursault » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:59 pm

The Duke wrote:I would choose getting a top 3 pick in 2013.

plus

the possibility of still getting Wiggins next season with #1 pick.

FYI -- this is a possibility in case ppl didnt know.


hypothetically...

if the raptors drafted Shabazz with the #2 pick this year

and got the #2 pick last year.

if the 2014 #1 pick offered to trade the pick to the raptors for #2 in 2014, Shabazz, and JV, would you do it?
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#18 » by thunderforce » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:23 pm

We should get healthy and win some games and give our pick away ASAP after that we should trade or loose Calderon and Bargs and trade Lowry and DD to get picks back for 2014 and tank like our life depended on it and if BC or Casey did not understand that clearly enough they should be gone too .
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#19 » by Man of Steel » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:46 pm

Meursault wrote:
The Duke wrote:I would choose getting a top 3 pick in 2013.

plus

the possibility of still getting Wiggins next season with #1 pick.

FYI -- this is a possibility in case ppl didnt know.


hypothetically...

if the raptors drafted Shabazz with the #2 pick this year

and got the #2 pick last year.

if the 2014 #1 pick offered to trade the pick to the raptors for #2 in 2014, Shabazz, and JV, would you do it?


**** NO. As bad as Jabari was in that game on national tv, I'd take Jabari, Shabazz, and JV over just Andrew Wiggins in a heartbeat.

Having a stud centre and two solid wing prospects in Jabari and Shabazz is IMO worth more than having Wiggins and nothing else to work with. Think of it like this: would you rather have three A-/B+'s or one A+ and a bunch of F's?
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#20 » by [SJJ] » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:48 pm

2014 - This franchise needs Andrew Wiggins.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#21 » by Ducksplatt » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:20 pm

The Duke wrote:I would choose getting a top 3 pick in 2013.

plus

the possibility of still getting Wiggins next season with #1 pick.

FYI -- this is a possibility in case ppl didnt know.


That is what I would like to see (Shabazz and then Wiggens)
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#22 » by TheMainEvent » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:35 pm

If it's one or the other, I'd take 2014. The next draft looks pretty weak as far as the potential #1 picks go.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#23 » by Anth0ny » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:08 am

Whatever we need to do to get Wiggins.

If that means going winless from now until the 2014 draft lottery, so be it.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#24 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:00 am

Btw there wasn't many Shabazz clip packages online so I made one myself. Has most of his scores in the Georgia and Texas games and the ones from the team highlights in the Georgetown and Cal Poly ones



From what I can tell Shabazz seems like the latest in a long line of prospects who were overrated athletically in high school. (Marvin, Mayo, Barnes, Demar, etc.) I think it has something to do with not having the college/NBA style pro cameras??? I dunno, I even watched a game online of Shabazz in HS and he looked like a blow-by at will player in the making but it's just not the same footspeed in college so far, and I went back to watch his Hoop Summit clips and he looks just like the UCLA version.

I still like Shabazz but he fits the profile to me of the type of prospect who gets underrated. The guy who doesn't wow you in terms of physically blowing by and smashing you in college but who knows what to do skill and perimeter wise and knows where to be. A la the reason Cody Zeller will be very underrated by the draft. I bet Bazz gets passed by Goodwin and McLemore because they're flashier athletically.

It's also a warning sign for the Wiggins thing because if you watch the Hoop Summit clips for Wiggins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pK2synQRQ) he doesn't look like a freak. He looks like an elite prospect because he has amazing feel for the game and is a potentially awesome shooter, but you don't see the Jordan, Westbrook, etc. all-species type of WTF plays athletically in this clip. I'm inclined to believe that 9 minutes is the best resource for judging his athleticism out there, as is it's on an NBA style court and cameras
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#25 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 am

I watched some KU games the last few days (they're like all on youtube btw) and I like Noel more and more as deserving as his high ranking. He's made some absolutely fantastic passes this year, I think he sees the court pretty well, it's just his skill level that's raw. I can buy the idea that he has one of the highest upsides
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#26 » by Tofubeque » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:19 am

Obviously Wiggins is the big target for us, but Noel would be a great consolation prize. The thought of a Valanciunas/Noel frontcourt makes me drool. They'd be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball down the road.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#27 » by Edumacated » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:29 pm

I think some of you make a good point that this team next year probably won't be bad enough to get a top 2 pick in 2014 unless management purposely tanks. Assuming that JV, Ross, DD, and Davis are not traded and are on the team next year, the Raptors should do better and get a pick in the 5-10 range. So the question is whether a top 3 pick in 2013 is better than a top 5-10 pick in 2014. It's hard to say at this point since the 2014 draft is still 1.5 years away. I guess if I wanted rebuild faster I would take a top 3 2013 pick instead.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#28 » by osamu » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:40 pm

I get annoyed when people say we shouldn't tank. WTF are we gonna do? It's like some people want the raps to suck forever so they can b*tch and complain all season
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#29 » by Chaos Engine » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:39 am

Tofubeque wrote:Obviously Wiggins is the big target for us, but Noel would be a great consolation prize. The thought of a Valanciunas/Noel frontcourt makes me drool. They'd be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball down the road.

Noel yes, but Val is a pretty bad defender and I don't see him being on an All NBA Defense team anytime in the future.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#30 » by Big Shot » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:42 am

We have to get past Dec.22,2012 first.
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Re: Which draft do you want? 

Post#31 » by UnderdogRaptors » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:46 am

Edumacated wrote:I think some of you make a good point that this team next year probably won't be bad enough to get a top 2 pick in 2014 unless management purposely tanks. Assuming that JV, Ross, DD, and Davis are not traded and are on the team next year, the Raptors should do better and get a pick in the 5-10 range. So the question is whether a top 3 pick in 2013 is better than a top 5-10 pick in 2014. It's hard to say at this point since the 2014 draft is still 1.5 years away. I guess if I wanted rebuild faster I would take a top 3 2013 pick instead.

we r seriously underrating Shabbaz imo he will be a great player in the league because he wants to be the best and has a winners mentality something the Raptors desperately need.
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