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Post#16 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:22 pm by James_Raptors

lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.



Exactly.


For a team without a talent issue we sure are desperate to acquire talented guys to add to our roster.
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Post#17 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:25 pm by Courtside

lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.

If you read the actual link, you would see that it was the Cavaliers "gauging interest" in Verajao. The part about Bargnani was that the Raptors were putting out feelers.

Not a big difference, mind you, but Hassassin's choice of thread title didn't help.

A player's value will be a constantly changing thing, depending on how he's performing, his contract, what other team's have or need at a particular time, and his health. I don't see anything wrong with articles stating that the Raptors are putting out feelers or gauging interest - it means they are out there trying to work something out and get the best deal possible. If you want him gone, why would you complain about this?
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Post#18 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:34 pm by James_Raptors

Courtside wrote:
lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.

If you read the actual link, you would see that it was the Cavaliers "gauging interest" in Verajao. The part about Bargnani was that the Raptors were putting out feelers.

Not a big difference, mind you, but Hassassin's choice of thread title didn't help.

A player's value will be a constantly changing thing, depending on how he's performing, his contract, what other team's have or need at a particular time, and his health. I don't see anything wrong with articles stating that the Raptors are putting out feelers or gauging interest - it means they are out there trying to work something out and get the best deal possible. If you want him gone, why would you complain about this?


for example, if we read "Raps unwilling to gauge interest on Bargnani, view him as future star to build around" I would be a hell of a lot more worried.

(or any sort of variation that implies they are unwilling to investigate trade scenarios)
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Post#19 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:35 pm by Big Shot

BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.
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Post#20 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:39 pm by Beardman

Big Shot wrote:BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.

....

I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.
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Post#21 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:41 pm by Big Shot

Beardman wrote:
Big Shot wrote:BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.

....

I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.



Sarcasm.
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Post#22 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:42 pm by lucky777s

Beardman wrote:....
I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.


So you are agreeing its a great trade for DAL but think Cuban is too loyal to Dirk to dump him?
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Post#23 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:43 pm by western221

Every one goes, swallow your pride and see what you can get for everyone not named Jonas.
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Post#24 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:47 pm by Beardman

lucky777s wrote:
Beardman wrote:....
I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.


So you are agreeing its a great trade for DAL but think Cuban is too loyal to Dirk to dump him?

No the entire thing is bad, from the beginning of the post till the end. That specific point about Cuban salivating to unload Dirk stood out the most though.

Anyways, the dude was joking.
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Post#25 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:55 pm by Patman

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.

Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?


Uhh, pretty sure he's making fun of the fact that Minny has a lot of white players.
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Post#26 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:08 pm by UcanUwill

We all know Varejao is just an excuse to get Omri Casspi. That guy is not only white, he is Jewish white :naaa:
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Post#27 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:10 pm by JJ From Deep

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.

Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?

Dude...the Minnesota Timberwolves roster is predominantly white. That was his joke LOL
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Post#28 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:23 pm by joeyt618

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.
Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?

I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to this.
http://now.msn.com/minnesota-timberwolves-criticized-for-lack-of-black-players
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Post#29 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:43 pm by no dice

UcanUwill wrote:We all know Varejao is just an excuse to get Omri Casspi. That guy is not only white, he is Jewish white :naaa:

hahaha :lol: who is the other jewish player? jordan farmar?
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Post#30 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:45 pm by lucky777s

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Post#31 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:47 pm by Major Giz

joeyt618 wrote:I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to this.
http://now.msn.com/minnesota-timberwolves-criticized-for-lack-of-black-players


Throw in Lucas. Would that appease?
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Post#32 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:49 pm by Yoga

Bargnani + 2013 1st for Ricky Rubio + salary filler
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Post#33 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:58 pm by OhMyBosh

Yoga wrote:Bargnani + 2013 1st for Ricky Rubio + salary filler


What 2013 1st?

It'll take an enormous amount more to pry Rubio. We'll also need to take back all their bad contracts like Roy, Barea, Ridnour.
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Post#34 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:01 pm by Master Ze

Yoga wrote:Bargnani + 2013 1st for Ricky Rubio + salary filler

1) There is no 2013 first for the Raptors
2) The wolves would have to throw in Love or AK-47 for the salaries to work out
3) Nobody wants Andrea and Rubio's not some scrub you can trade Andrea for


I would want to see the Raptors making a run at Derrick WIlliams or Ak-47 even though it's highly unlikely.
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Post#35 Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out
Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:08 pm by The_Hater

Beardman wrote:Crazy enough, I think he's the perfect fit beside Love.



Only Colangelo would think this.

The exact opposite type of player, one that plays defense and hustles his butt off like Varajeo would be a perfect fit beside Love.
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