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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby James_Raptors on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:22 pm

lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.



Exactly.


For a team without a talent issue we sure are desperate to acquire talented guys to add to our roster.
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby Courtside on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:25 pm

lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.

If you read the actual link, you would see that it was the Cavaliers "gauging interest" in Verajao. The part about Bargnani was that the Raptors were putting out feelers.

Not a big difference, mind you, but Hassassin's choice of thread title didn't help.

A player's value will be a constantly changing thing, depending on how he's performing, his contract, what other team's have or need at a particular time, and his health. I don't see anything wrong with articles stating that the Raptors are putting out feelers or gauging interest - it means they are out there trying to work something out and get the best deal possible. If you want him gone, why would you complain about this?
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby James_Raptors on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:34 pm

Courtside wrote:
lucky777s wrote:I thought teams were constantly calling trying to pry Bargs and Jose out of TOR. Isn't this what BC has been selling us on for years.

But now we have to call around and 'gauge his value'. That tells you all you need to know. Nobody really wants him and we will have to sweeten the deal to unload him.

If you read the actual link, you would see that it was the Cavaliers "gauging interest" in Verajao. The part about Bargnani was that the Raptors were putting out feelers.

Not a big difference, mind you, but Hassassin's choice of thread title didn't help.

A player's value will be a constantly changing thing, depending on how he's performing, his contract, what other team's have or need at a particular time, and his health. I don't see anything wrong with articles stating that the Raptors are putting out feelers or gauging interest - it means they are out there trying to work something out and get the best deal possible. If you want him gone, why would you complain about this?


for example, if we read "Raps unwilling to gauge interest on Bargnani, view him as future star to build around" I would be a hell of a lot more worried.

(or any sort of variation that implies they are unwilling to investigate trade scenarios)
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby Big Shot on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:35 pm

BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.
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Postby Beardman on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:39 pm

Big Shot wrote:BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.

....

I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby Big Shot on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:41 pm

Beardman wrote:
Big Shot wrote:BC should just call DAL to propose a AB trade for Dirk.

Why? A younger Dirk lite with potential to grow for an old Dirk, who might only decline in the years to come. Plus, they're both injured now. The timing couldn't be more right.

I'm sure Cuban will be salivating all over the place just from hearing it.

....

I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.



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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby lucky777s on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:42 pm

Beardman wrote:....
I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.


So you are agreeing its a great trade for DAL but think Cuban is too loyal to Dirk to dump him?
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby western221 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:43 pm

Every one goes, swallow your pride and see what you can get for everyone not named Jonas.
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby Beardman on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:47 pm

lucky777s wrote:
Beardman wrote:....
I think this is the first "horrible" post I have read from you ... granted I haven't read many of your posts. Cuban would never do that to Dirk.


So you are agreeing its a great trade for DAL but think Cuban is too loyal to Dirk to dump him?

No the entire thing is bad, from the beginning of the post till the end. That specific point about Cuban salivating to unload Dirk stood out the most though.

Anyways, the dude was joking.
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby Patman on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:55 pm

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.

Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?


Uhh, pretty sure he's making fun of the fact that Minny has a lot of white players.
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby UcanUwill on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:08 pm

We all know Varejao is just an excuse to get Omri Casspi. That guy is not only white, he is Jewish white :naaa:
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby JJ From Deep on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:10 pm

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.

Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?

Dude...the Minnesota Timberwolves roster is predominantly white. That was his joke LOL
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby joeyt618 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:23 pm

Gold Chain wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:"Do you need a white guy?"


Kind of a dumb thing to ask, when 90% of the league are black dudes.
Like, "Do you need a black guy?", is that redundant?

I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to this.
http://now.msn.com/minnesota-timberwolves-criticized-for-lack-of-black-players
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby no dice on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:43 pm

UcanUwill wrote:We all know Varejao is just an excuse to get Omri Casspi. That guy is not only white, he is Jewish white :naaa:

hahaha :lol: who is the other jewish player? jordan farmar?
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Re: Raps gauging Bargnani's value, reach out to Minny

Postby lucky777s on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:45 pm

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