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by TheFreshPrince on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:29 pm
KnickerBonkerz wrote:J-Roc wrote:Meh, a bunch of garbage. He demanded a trade. No one boos him because we think he hated Toronto. We boo him because he wanted to go help the fans in the swamp of Jersey win, rather than his fans here. gtfo with this jersey retiring crap. Go let Jersey do that for you. Oh right, no more team in NJ. Oh right, you were only ever considered a Richard Jefferson caliber player to the real star J KIdd. g t f o
This is what I was talking about when I said bitter and pathetic
There was a time when I had this type of hatred for the guy, but that was when he was still in a Raptors uniform half assing it. I think Babcock deserved the hatred after the trade, I mean it's not like people were booing Vince while he was still a Raptor, so why boo him after he gets traded just cuz we got jack sh** for him? You could make the argument "ohh he diminished his trade value", okay sure.. but why would you trade him then? Wy didn't Babcock wait until the offseason where we could've got much more for him?
But the point is, do you see any other teams booing a player that left their team almost a decade ago? Time to grow up and put our big boy pants on. Get over it
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Fans did boo him at the arena before he left. But the little schoolgirl grudge is beyond played out.
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by Geddy on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:12 pm
CreaM wrote:Bring him home.
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by StartingBench on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:14 pm
Bargnani and kleiza for Vince. Dallas needs dirk lite now more than ever.
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by J-Roc on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:35 pm
KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
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by Guy Smiley on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:41 pm
J-Roc wrote:KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
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by J-Roc on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:50 pm
Guy Smiley wrote:J-Roc wrote:KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
Please. VC wanted Dr. J and wasn't happy ownership didn't abide. Is that what defines going in a different direction?? Not hiring a GM requested by a player? Nah, VC destroyed his legacy here. Hope he got to experience the greener grass on the other side.
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by C_Money on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:17 pm
I want him back so bad just to make this team somewhat relevant again. We've been a total mess ever since he's been gone. He may not be the same player he used to be but he is still a big name guy who was suppossed to be the face of this franchise for many years.
Bring him back and then retire his jersey.
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by Tofubeque on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:31 pm
I don't get the hate for VC booing here. It's the most established tradition this franchise has. It makes it into video games

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by Guy Smiley on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:01 am
J-Roc wrote:Guy Smiley wrote:J-Roc wrote:
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
Please. VC wanted Dr. J and wasn't happy ownership didn't abide. Is that what defines going in a different direction?? Not hiring a GM requested by a player? Nah, VC destroyed his legacy here. Hope he got to experience the greener grass on the other side.
Richard Peddie promised Vince he could participate in the GM search. That was later withdrawn from the table without being communicated to Vince. Peddie even admitted he broke his promise to Vince.
Vince had very valid reasons to want out. He went behind closed doors but in typical MLSE fashion they used the media to forward their agenda.
Vince was more successful without the Raptors in terms of playoff success. Sadly he has outperformed the Raptors entire history on his own. So yeah, I guess even though he had very modest success the pastures were truly greener.
Cue the 2012/13 Toronto Raptors.
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by speedythief on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:06 am
Let's invite him back to Toronto for a jersey retirement ceremony, except when we pull down the curtain it is a giant picture of VC laying face down on the court with his hands over his eyes, while Rasheed Wallace makes a shoveling mime in the background and the referees try not to laugh.
Seriously, funk that guy.
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by Boobs on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:06 am
RaptorReloaded wrote:The day VC was traded to me was like 9/11 in the sence that I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when it happened.
Sitting in my old house, living room, saw theScore ticker, couldn't believe it. Minutes later, "On..on PS2 I probably could've got a bit more.."
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by MEDIC on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:09 am
I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't trade the guy.
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by West Rouge on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:10 am
MEDIC wrote:I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't treade the guy.
You mean like BC bringing in Hedo?

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by MEDIC on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:12 am
West Rouge wrote:MEDIC wrote:I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't treade the guy.
You mean like BC bringing in Hedo?
Haha. I guess..........if you think that Bosh was even close to a prime Vince Carter.......

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by LAUGHING on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:14 am
how badly did he get booed tonight?
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