Volcano wrote:zippy wrote:Please name someone with experience that you can guarantee will turn this team into a contender?
I'm glad its not up to you either, you seem emotionally unstable.
It's not supposed to be his job to look for candidates now is it? You're telling a customer at a supermarket that he's not equipped to source supplies and inventories because he's complaining about rotten fruit.
Double Helix wrote:Part of the reason BC is still around and part of the reason he still has fans is because many of the things he attempts do sound good in theory. He just hasn't seen many if those ideas pan out consistently.
WRONG.
Most of his ideas were terrible in theory. The reason you agree with him is because your sense of logic is skewed like his. That's why both of you had to concede to the downfall of Bargs even though everyone else saw it coming a mile away.
The GM should not be allowed to have a SINGLE decision that's horrible in theory. This is his job. If he does something that's obviously mindnumbingly stupid to everyone involved in the game, then he doesn't deserve to keep his job.
Agreed, BC has had many moves that were terrible in theory
The JO trade was terrible from the start because of how much money he made. Paying 20-22 mil for a player of JO at that time's caliber is going to hurt a team's chances to win. Redistributing the money will create more wins than that. It would've been a bad trade just for TJ and Rasho, with the 1st it was horrible
Most of BC's FA signings are poor in theory. A lot of smart teams are looking at contracts from 6 to 10 mil like they do at midrange jumpshots. Don't take them. The difference between those players and the ones on fractional deals is too small and it hurts flexibility too much
BC doesn't understand why having small assets (non lotto 1st rd picks, 2nd rounders on cheap deals, retaining young players like Bayless and JJ, etc.) is important. It's not about those players themselves but accumulating trade assets and value. The easiest way to get good players is to trade good value for them and we rarely focus on getting valued trade assets
Not trading Bosh was bad in theory. He was uncommitted if not full on telling BC he was going to leave and we didn't pick up the assets for him. My theory on the Bosh situation is that we put him on the block at the deadline but with half a year left nobody wanted to give up much for him. BC probably had a Beasley, 1st offer on the table from Miami as his best offer and turned it down because he wanted to make the playoffs. I mean we even turned down Beasley in the S&T.
Furthermore I've always felt one of the smoking guns for BC being dumb, is that before the fruitman S&T in the Hedo deal, we were on the verge of just signing him straight up, which would've meant renouncing our FAs and MLE. We would've had no flexibility besides minimums to sign anyone else to compliment the Calderon, Bosh, Hedo, Bargnani foursome, no Jack or Belli or Amir. In other words it'd have been the exact same situation as the JO year, with the top 4 guys being solid but nothing behind them. Somehow BC watched the 08-09 season and thought switching Hedo for JO/Marion, but leaving the depth just as terrible probably with Ukic and Jake the Snake coming back, would work out and be enough to resign Bosh. Think about that. That's absolutely ridiculous. That team without the depth would've had 0 chance. That's an example of BC's "in theory" planning was actually much worse than what really happened
Finally, the 2012 draft. Personally I'm the biggest fan here of Ross and I believe he will be an all-star. With that said I think the theory behind the pick was much much worse than what actually happened. I don't believe BC saw Ross as some diamond in the rough Marion/Amare all-star steal at all, if he did we would've heard way more hype coming from his mouth. He even said we won too many games last year. Essentially "in theory" BC made these hugely incriminating moves:
- Trading a future pick for Lowry, when we could've surely done #8 for him which would've been better for us, if not #8 for Lowry and #18. We didn't want Lowry on draft night because we wanted a 38 year old Steve Nash instead for our crappy super young team LOL!
- Not drafting a "top 3 talent" in BC's eyes because he didn't fit our team (positionally?). Did we pass on Drummond just because he was a big?
- If we weren't enamored with Ross, refusing to trade down when the gap between Drummond and picks at 9+ likely would've fetched a very decent price.
- Not taking Machado at 56 because we wanted to cap our rookies at 3 this year and because we wanted to go veteran with the 3rd PG. Not taking Quincy Miller over Quincy Acy when in reality we likely considered him the more talented player.
So yeah while I'm OK with the results of the 2012 draft right now, "in theory", BC did a lot of things that could've turned out horribly. If Ross ends up an all-star I'll consider him to have fallen a** backwards into that success to be honest, there's no evidence right now that BC likes Ross more than the countless RealGM posters who thinks his upside will top out at 3pt shooting role player
And the Derozan contract, I mean I don't even know what to say. He's never broken 15 PER and year to year puts up replacement level WS scores and on top of that he probably has as little 'non-statistical' value as anyone at his position because a SG who doesn't shoot 3s kills spacing, not to mention his poor defense, so if anything PER which can't track defense is liable to overrate him. Add in the fact that we didn't have to sign him and had just drafted a SG and this contract is just a flat out embarrassment and one of the biggest jokes of a contract the league has seen in the last 10 years, the fact that he's still doing his empty 18ppg thing is hiding just how bad this contract is, it's as bad as if someone gave Gerald Henderson or Psycho T or Corey Brewer 10 million a year this summer. A team giving Derozan even 6 million a year would be a bad decision because of the before-mentioned "don't give out average player contracts" movement, when you can replace Demar with a guy like Alan Anderson or Dorrel Wright off the scrap heap at any time at a cheaper, 1-2 yr price, it's just not worth it to give a guy 4 years at 5-6 mil+ a season. Giving that player 9.5 million a year is just transcendent overpayment GM stupidity, just absolutely inane and unbelievable
As a whole, many of BC's moves are "in theory" terrible. He overpays players, waits far too long to trade them when their value peaks, doesn't go after non lottery draft picks, and just has crap vision