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2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II

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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#256 » by TheGoodDoctor » Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:34 pm

kingcns187 wrote:what about jose for gibson and caspi from cleveland,

gibson would be a good option off the bench to back up lowry and can hit the 3, start Omri and waive pietrus' wack ass!!


Rather just let Jose expire.


Omri is garbage....I trade Kleiza for him and that's about it.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#257 » by ash_k » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:11 am

IF Fields can get back to his rookie level soon ("stopper", rebounder, 3point shooter)
IF Bargs can get back to an acceptable level then


To Golden State :
Bargnani
Fields

To Toronto:
Biedrins
Rush (injured)
Barnes
Trade ID #6198062 (IFs and IFs)
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#258 » by mikej05 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:22 am

Do the lakers want 3 years of Steve Nash?







Do we :/
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#259 » by bpcox05 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:39 am

Kings Get:
Jose Calderon
Ed Davis

Raptors Get:
Marcus Thornton
Aaron Brooks
Travis Outlaw

Kings Lineup:
PG - Calderon/Thomas
SG - Evans/Fredette/Garcia
SF - Salmons/Johnson/Honeycutt
PF - Thompson/Robinson/Hayes
C - Cousins/Davis

Raptors Lineup:
PG - Lowry/Brooks/Lucas
SG - Thornton/Anderson/Ross
SF - Derozan/Pietrus/Fields/Kleiza/Outlaw
PF - Bargnani/Johnson
C - Valanciunas/Gray
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Bargnani for Jeff Green Trade? 

Post#260 » by olu » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:57 am

Just saw this on twitter. Does anyone know if this guy is a credible source?

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Re: Bargnani for Jeff Green Trade? 

Post#261 » by J Dilla » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:59 am

No backbone to that rumor

It was just a scenario in a hoopsworld article
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#262 » by bboyskinnylegs » Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:06 am

I really hope not. Jeff Green is an equally crappy player on a terrible deal (his per 36 rebounding is the same as Bargs, and his PER is actually slightly worse) whose deal runs an extra year. At least Bargs could conceivably get hot as a bench scorer (or maybe in a situation where he's paired with a great C) and provide some go-to scoring.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#263 » by bboyskinnylegs » Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:12 am

ash_k wrote:IF Fields can get back to his rookie level soon ("stopper", rebounder, 3point shooter)
IF Bargs can get back to an acceptable level then


To Golden State :
Bargnani
Fields

To Toronto:
Biedrins
Rush (injured)
Barnes
Trade ID #6198062 (IFs and IFs)

The Warriors won't give up their recent lotto pick for our overpaid underachievers. If they were willing to make Barnes available, they'd be better off trying to move him for a real upgrade at SF.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#264 » by advaita » Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:42 am

What do you people think about making a deal with Utah, it makes perfect sense for us and somewhat for Utah. They need a point guard (calderon) and have too many good big men (not necessarily a bad thing obviously). A package of bargnani and calderon to get favors would be delicious but they'd probably move jefferson or millsap before kanter or favors. I think millsap is expiring not sure, but I would take millsap if we could extend that bitch.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#265 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:48 am

olu wrote:Just saw this on twitter. Does anyone know if this guy is a credible source?

Stephen Brotherston ‏@stevesraptors
#Celtics & #Raptors talks: Andrea Bargnani for Jeff Green could be happening


This may be interesting. Only see this if Raptors really cannot land Gay. A straight up Bargnani for Green will work only if we have a separate deal to get rid of Linas Klezia as well. Green can play the 3/4 and has some talent. I take Green over Bargnani.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#266 » by ash_k » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:21 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
ash_k wrote:IF Fields can get back to his rookie level soon ("stopper", rebounder, 3point shooter)
IF Bargs can get back to an acceptable level then

To Golden State :
Bargnani
Fields

To Toronto:
Biedrins
Rush (injured)
Barnes
Trade ID #6198062 (IFs and IFs)


The Warriors won't give up their recent lotto pick for our overpaid underachievers. If they were willing to make Barnes available, they'd be better off trying to move him for a real upgrade at SF.


They do play small to close out games (Curry, Jack&Thompson) Barnes is only getting 25 minutes in spite of his talent (Fields can be the defensive specialist and still young )
Biedrins gets no PT and has 2 more years at 9 per..so you can pay him to sit on the Bench or you get a player at around the same price that can contribute (Bargnani)..
Biedrins would be an upgrade over GRAY.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#267 » by carl_english » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:28 am

advaita wrote:What do you people think about making a deal with Utah, it makes perfect sense for us and somewhat for Utah. They need a point guard (calderon) and have too many good big men (not necessarily a bad thing obviously). A package of bargnani and calderon to get favors would be delicious but they'd probably move jefferson or millsap before kanter or favors. I think millsap is expiring not sure, but I would take millsap if we could extend that bitch.

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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#268 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:56 pm

advaita wrote:What do you people think about making a deal with Utah, it makes perfect sense for us and somewhat for Utah. They need a point guard (calderon) and have too many good big men (not necessarily a bad thing obviously). A package of bargnani and calderon to get favors would be delicious but they'd probably move jefferson or millsap before kanter or favors. I think millsap is expiring not sure, but I would take millsap if we could extend that bitch.


I think Utah makes some sense as a partner;
I would imagine Favors is the futures, and they hope Kanter may be his frontcourt partner long term, but with Millsap and AlJef expiring after this season I would imagine they may be entertaining offers to address some other needs using either of them.

I just don't know if we really have the assets they are looking for that we would want to move for players who may likely bolt for nothing.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#269 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:05 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
advaita wrote:What do you people think about making a deal with Utah, it makes perfect sense for us and somewhat for Utah. They need a point guard (calderon) and have too many good big men (not necessarily a bad thing obviously). A package of bargnani and calderon to get favors would be delicious but they'd probably move jefferson or millsap before kanter or favors. I think millsap is expiring not sure, but I would take millsap if we could extend that bitch.


I think Utah makes some sense as a partner;
I would imagine Favors is the futures, and they hope Kanter may be his frontcourt partner long term, but with Millsap and AlJef expiring after this season I would imagine they may be entertaining offers to address some other needs using either of them.

I just don't know if we really have the assets they are looking for that we would want to move for players who may likely bolt for nothing.


Utah will have to give up one of Al or Millsap in the offseason. I think their biggest priority right now is at the PG position. From the Raptors, Utah would probably want Lowry. If we can extend Millsap at a reasonable contract in a trade scenario I would love to package Lowry with Andrea for Millsap as principles. Maybe Utah would give up Burks? Obviously fillers needed to balance salary.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#270 » by DA_SCOUT » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:05 pm

Memphis and Phoenix are engaged in talks about Rudy Gay according to Woj on Yahoo.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#271 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:49 pm

DA_SCOUT wrote:Memphis and Phoenix are engaged in talks about Rudy Gay according to Woj on Yahoo.


I don't get this, I thought Suns owner was a cheapskate...
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#272 » by YoungG » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:36 pm

IT doesn't make sense and Toronto is going to miss out on an opportunity to get a STARTER type of player. No more role players
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#273 » by TheGoodDoctor » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:45 pm

Introducing the Toronto Raptors new SF of the future.......














OMRI CASSPI!!!


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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#274 » by Neutral 123 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:48 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
DA_SCOUT wrote:Memphis and Phoenix are engaged in talks about Rudy Gay according to Woj on Yahoo.


I don't get this, I thought Suns owner was a cheapskate...

Not MLSE cheap though.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread Part II 

Post#275 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:55 am

We need to stay away from Gay. No use in dealing assets for an overpaid starter and the furthest we're gonna get is a first round exit. Why lock ourselves into mediocrity?
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