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MEM shopping Rudy Gay (Raps interested, PHX in lead? P. 32)

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How do you feel about the Raptors pursuing Rudy Gay?

Yes! Do it. He'd be our best wing by a mile.
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No way! He's overpaid, overrated.
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Meh. Only if he comes very cheap.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#41 » by LLJ » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:43 pm

Spragga wrote:Ed would prob be gone. I guess Casey would use Gay as a pf for smallball and go Lowry/DD/Ross/Gay/Bargs to finish games.


That's very Raptors' like... :(

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Post#42 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:43 pm

dTox wrote:I highly doubt Gay's team would win 8 of 9 games without him, but I do share your POV, he has been worse than ever and do not see him as a solution to establishing a winning culture.


I don't, if they were playing who we have played over those 9 games.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#43 » by EFF3KT » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:44 pm

I remember when the Iggy rumors started to pick up over the summer, many were willing to trade away DD in a deal for Iggy. I was not a fan of that scenario because I was willing to give DD one more year to prove his worth and live up to his potential. It may have taken longer than most wished but let me tell you, I'm pleasantly happy with how he has been performing this season.

To deal him in a transaction for a Gay type player (and contract) with the current roster status would be silly IMO. He fills a need for the team that we have been lacking for the past few years but at what cost? I'm more concerned about what we'd (BC in particular) be letting go than what we'd be gaining.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#44 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:45 pm

No thank you. I keep saying how we as a team don't need to be trading for expensive vets. Trading for Gay takes us out of the race for the 2014 draft, clogs our books (in terms of financial flexibility) and will likely cost us youth which we SHOULD NOT be trading at this infancy stage of our rebuild.

With the future of this team in mind, we need to say no to Rudy Gay. Not to mention he's been far from impressive this season thus far. So unless we're doing a three team trade where Gay ends up elsewhere while we take on bad deals and quality young players, I don't want to be involved.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#45 » by RapsFanInVA » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:46 pm

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Post#46 » by TheForrestCity » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:46 pm

we have nothing that memphis would want... i dont see this happening
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#47 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:46 pm

Gay is exactly the player we need but in no way shape or form am I breaking up the core for dude. This will have to be a 3 way deal of some sort.

Lowry
DD
Ross
Val
Ed
Amir

must remain for me to really want gay here. If we are moving one of those guys I think we are taking a step backwards. No BC can not attach any picks because our pick next summer is up in the air as of right now therefore we can not trade any picks. Can we just clear that up.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#48 » by JunkYardSubs » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:47 pm

I'd do Calderon and Derozan but no way Id trade Ross or JV or Ed
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#49 » by dagger » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:48 pm

TheForrestCity wrote:we have nothing that memphis would want... i dont see this happening


This would be a financial relief trade, and yes, we have something there Memphis would want.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#50 » by LifeBaller11 » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:48 pm

I would be down to get Gay if it meant we get him in similar fashion that ATL got when they had to rid themselves of Joe Johnson.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#51 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:48 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Gay is exactly the player we need...


The myth of Rudy Gay is exactly the player we need, not the current reality. Unless he can Vince in NJ for us.
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Post#52 » by TheProfessor » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:49 pm

if it's for bargs and demar sign me up, amnesty Kleiza roll with something like

VAl/AMIR/GRAY
ED/AMIR/ACY
GAY/FIELDS
ROSS/FIELDS
Lowry/JLIII

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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#53 » by dagger » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:49 pm

JunkYardSubs wrote:I'd do Calderon and Derozan but no way Id trade Ross or JV or Ed


Absolutely not. Do you even consider DeMar's now got a higher PER than Gay, that DeMar will be paid literally half of what Gay is paid for the balance of the latter's contract? That DeMar is four years younger than Gay and has room to improve?
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#54 » by LLJ » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:50 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
Lowry
DD
Ross
Val
Ed
Amir

must remain for me to really want gay here. If we are moving one of those guys I think we are taking a step backwards.


Pretty much my thoughts.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#55 » by dagger » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:50 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Gay is exactly the player we need...


The myth of Rudy Gay is exactly the player we need, not the current reality. Unless he can Vince in NJ for us.


Thanks for being a voice of sanity here.

My best offer is Calderon and Fields. At least there we wold be mitigating the financial hit, leaving us some flexibility.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#56 » by McFurious1 » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:51 pm

Do it! We need the talent at the SF position to make the next leap.

Anyone not named Val, Ross, Lowry, Davis, Amir, DeRozan should be included.
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Post#57 » by garbagnani » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:51 pm

if we get gay we need to keep ross, will value his shooting.

I would be down for jose + derozan for gay + bayless (or whoever else they have that can back up lowry for us).

I think MLSE should go into the tax. I would prefer to wait to trade for a better player than Gay (one that actually deserves max dollars), but it seems unlikely that we can do any better than gay.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#58 » by changes » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:52 pm

If bargnani goes the other way sure, but I doubt they want a pile of trash with that contract coming back.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#59 » by dagger » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:52 pm

McFurious1 wrote:Do it! We need the talent at the SF position to make the next leap.

Anyone not named Val, Ross, Lowry, Davis, Amir, DeRozan should be included.


I think that's the proper exclusion list.
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Re: Lowe: Rudy Gay being shopped (Raps interested?) 

Post#60 » by carl_english » Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:52 pm

$16,460,538 $17,888,931 $19,317,325 no thx

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