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How do you feel about the Raptors pursuing Rudy Gay?

Yes! Do it. He'd be our best wing by a mile.
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No way! He's overpaid, overrated.
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Meh. Only if he comes very cheap.
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Post#646 » by cdel00 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:55 am

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cdel00 wrote:For me it's about watching the game played the right way. The thrill of long stretches of great team work on both ends of the court. The oohs and aahs of a well set pick. The joy of beautiful defensive rotations. The crispness of a buttery smooth stroke on a wide open shot created by a well executed play. Etc.

I often hear that only thing that counts is the W but I disagree. I think the only thing that counts is the performance during the 200 or so possessions. The result is not as meaningful to me as the play that lead to the result.

I want to see proper execution for 200 plays.

Win or lose I don't care for me it's all about the content that lead to the result.



Why watch the NBA? You sound like a natural NCAA fan.


I like both :)
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Re: MEM shopping Rudy Gay (Raps interested, PHX in lead? P. 

Post#647 » by kmatrixg » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:18 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I love that PHX trade for Memphis. Dudley is exactly the type of player MEM needs to replace Gay with at SF. He'd be a permanent version of 2011 Battier for them spacing the floor, hitting open shots and moving the ball with a high IQ. Or basically the Tayshaun Prince to their 2000s Pistons. Don't think the Raps can compete with that offer even if they put Ross in the trade, because MEM is still trying to win a title the next 2 years and nothing we can offer helps that as much as PHX giving them that Dudley glue guy piece on the wings


This is basically spot on to what is going on. People downplaying Dudley haven't analyzed much of what the guy does. With Conley, Randolph and Gasol, they don't need much playmaking ability - especially at the behest of 19 million a season. Dudley will do the job well, and for a fifth of the cost. We can't compete with the offer, and I haven't seen Hollinger talk well about one of our players for YEARS. Dudley is a Hollinger star - cheap and efficient.
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Blatche should just take the table.
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Post#648 » by suntzuballin » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:24 am

i can see this trade go down but beasly probly going other way grizz have no one to man the 3 spot i see grizz being even stronger team with dudly and beasly plus the get the lakers pick i bet rather then give up there own too the suns missed out on Gordon so Rudy Gay be there centerpiece
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Post#649 » by fredericklove » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:32 am

Can someone help me think of ways to obtain both Gay and Milsap, trade offer scenario whatever without hitting over the caps.

Lowry
DD
Gay
Milsap
Val

Fapworthy.
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Re: MEM shopping Rudy Gay (Raps interested, PHX in lead? P. 

Post#650 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:33 am

kmatrixg wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I love that PHX trade for Memphis. Dudley is exactly the type of player MEM needs to replace Gay with at SF. He'd be a permanent version of 2011 Battier for them spacing the floor, hitting open shots and moving the ball with a high IQ. Or basically the Tayshaun Prince to their 2000s Pistons. Don't think the Raps can compete with that offer even if they put Ross in the trade, because MEM is still trying to win a title the next 2 years and nothing we can offer helps that as much as PHX giving them that Dudley glue guy piece on the wings


This is basically spot on to what is going on. People downplaying Dudley haven't analyzed much of what the guy does. With Conley, Randolph and Gasol, they don't need much playmaking ability - especially at the behest of 19 million a season. Dudley will do the job well, and for a fifth of the cost. We can't compete with the offer, and I haven't seen Hollinger talk well about one of our players for YEARS. Dudley is a Hollinger star - cheap and efficient.


Didn't MEM have similar player in Shane Battier 2 years ago? How did that work for them in their championship quest? TOR can offer a much better package for Gay than PHX.
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Post#651 » by Snakeyes » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:55 am

Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?
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Post#652 » by SwaggWagg » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:02 am

Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?



So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move? :lol:


This fanbase never stops amazing. :P
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Post#653 » by Wo1verine » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:07 am

SwaggWagg wrote:
Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?



So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move? :lol:


This fanbase never stops amazing. :P

Adding Rudy Gay is defiantly a treadmill move..

adding him doesn't take us to the next level.
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Post#654 » by SwaggWagg » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:10 am

Ross, Davis, Bargnani, Calderon, Pick

For

Randolph, Gay


Lowry
Derozan
Gay
Randolph
Valanciunas
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Re: MEM shopping Rudy Gay (Raps interested, PHX in lead? P. 

Post#655 » by SwaggWagg » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:12 am

Wo1verine wrote:
SwaggWagg wrote:
Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?



So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move? :lol:


This fanbase never stops amazing. :P

Adding Rudy Gay is defiantly a treadmill move..

adding him doesn't take us to the next level.



We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.
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Post#656 » by TheWire » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:15 am

SwaggWagg wrote:Ross, Davis, Bargnani, Calderon, Pick

For

Randolph, Gay


Lowry
Derozan
Gay
Randolph
Valanciunas


Championship time
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Post#657 » by TheWire » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:17 am

What BC should be looking at is dealing Demar+ed for Cousins
followed by ross+Bargnani+Calderon for Gay

a starting 5 of
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Post#658 » by Wo1verine » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:17 am

SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

That's true, but unless we're contender's , i don't care because our roster isn't talented enough with gay and that's not a knock on him! we're just not in a position to be adding high priced players to a mediocre roster at this point.
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Post#659 » by JunkYardSubs » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:22 am

Wo1verine wrote:
SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

That's true, but unless we're contender's , i don't care because our roster isn't talented enough with gay and that's not a knock on him! we're just not in a position to be adding high priced players to a mediocre roster at this point.

Yeah if we get Rudy we have to add more

If the goal is "be a decent playoff team":

Lowry
Demar
Gay
Milsap
Val

Thats a decent team, I don't like the idea though
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Post#660 » by Snakeyes » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:22 am

SwaggWagg wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:
SwaggWagg wrote:So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move? :lol:


This fanbase never stops amazing. :P

Adding Rudy Gay is defiantly a treadmill move..

adding him doesn't take us to the next level.



We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.


The chance to draft a perfect prospect for this city like Wiggins may not reappear anytime soon either.
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Post#661 » by lander » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:15 am

JunkYardSubs wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:
SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

That's true, but unless we're contender's , i don't care because our roster isn't talented enough with gay and that's not a knock on him! we're just not in a position to be adding high priced players to a mediocre roster at this point.

Yeah if we get Rudy we have to add more

If the goal is "be a decent playoff team":

Lowry
Ross
Gay
Milsap
Val

Thats a decent team, I don't like the idea though


How about now?
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Post#662 » by SwaggWagg » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:20 am

Snakeyes wrote:
The chance to draft a perfect prospect for this city like Wiggins may not reappear anytime soon either.



Dude, no way are we getting Wiggins. Too overrated anyway.
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Post#663 » by lander » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:28 am

^^And Rudy isn't?
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Post#664 » by HEKTOR » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:48 am

fredericklove wrote:Can someone help me think of ways to obtain both Gay and Milsap, trade offer scenario whatever without hitting over the caps.

Lowry
DD
Gay
Milsap
Val

Fapworthy.

It's more or less not happening if we are to keep Lowry, DD, and Val.
Here's taking a shot at it though:

TO RAPTORS:
Paul Millsap
Raja Bell

TO JAZZ:
Andrea Bargnani
Terrence Ross

TO RAPTORS:
Rudy Gay
Jared Bayless
Hamid Haddadi
Josh Selby

TO GRIZZLIES:
Jose Calderon
Linas Kleiza
Alan Anderson
Quincy Acy
2nd Rd Pick 2014 (SAC) via Toronto

LOWRY / Lucas / Selby
DEROZAN / Bayless / Bell
GAY / Fields / Pietrus
MILLSAP / Davis / Johnson
VALANCIUNAS / Gray / Haddadi
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Re: MEM shopping Rudy Gay (Raps interested, PHX in lead? P. 

Post#665 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:05 am

HEKTOR wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Can someone help me think of ways to obtain both Gay and Milsap, trade offer scenario whatever without hitting over the caps.

Lowry
DD
Gay
Milsap
Val

Fapworthy.

It's more or less not happening if we are to keep Lowry, DD, and Val.
Here's taking a shot at it though:

TO RAPTORS:
Paul Millsap
Raja Bell

TO JAZZ:
Andrea Bargnani
Terrence Ross

TO RAPTORS:
Rudy Gay
Jared Bayless
Hamid Haddadi
Josh Selby

TO GRIZZLIES:
Jose Calderon
Linas Kleiza
Alan Anderson
Quincy Acy
2nd Rd Pick 2014 (SAC) via Toronto

LOWRY / Lucas / Selby
DEROZAN / Bayless / Bell
GAY / Fields / Pietrus
MILLSAP / Davis / Johnson
VALANCIUNAS / Gray / Haddadi


why would we give up ross for millsap who is a 6 foot 5 power foward that will be a free agent at the end of the year?
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