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What logical reason is there for jose to start?

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Post#31 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:03 pm by nahom1319

Well the alternative is playing with superstars Aaron Gray and Peeches.

Sadly our 2nd unit of Lowry, Ross, Anderson, Fields, and Amir is better then our starting unit.
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Post#32 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 10:25 pm by tmac101

When do you guys think Casey will go back to Lowry as the starting PG
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Post#33 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 10:27 pm by JunkYardSubs

tmac101 wrote:When do you guys think Casey will go back to Lowry as the starting PG

When he has pissed him off enough to make us trading our pick even more worthless
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Post#34 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:06 pm by niQ

Clearly to up his trade value.
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Post#35 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:23 pm by dballislife

dont people wanna see if lowry can be the PG of the future here, i do, how do u know, well u gotta play him in that role...its obvious what jose is already
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Post#36 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:04 pm by pkiskool

High character.
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Post#37 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:04 pm by RedX

Logically... we won 7/8 games with him starting.

Realistically... as soon as Lowry came back Jose should have been sent back to the bench.
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Post#38 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:45 pm by lucky777s

RedX wrote:Logically... we won 7/8 games with him starting.

Realistically... as soon as Lowry came back Jose should have been sent back to the bench.



It's more than that though. The players had just called out Bargs and Lowry. Then they re-grouped with Jose leading the team and bought into team play and turned the season around.

If you just throw Lowry back in there you risk dividing the locker room and disrupting chemistry. Much smarter to wait for a few losses and then make the move. That way Lowry doesn't take heat for the Raps starting to lose again.

This team is going to suck with either PG. At least Casey is taking charge of the team now and showing he will reward results. He may have regained some credibility with the players.
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Post#39 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:17 pm by Illuminati_

lucky777s wrote:
RedX wrote:Logically... we won 7/8 games with him starting.

Realistically... as soon as Lowry came back Jose should have been sent back to the bench.



It's more than that though. The players had just called out Bargs and Lowry. Then they re-grouped with Jose leading the team and bought into team play and turned the season around.

If you just throw Lowry back in there you risk dividing the locker room and disrupting chemistry. Much smarter to wait for a few losses and then make the move. That way Lowry doesn't take heat for the Raps starting to lose again.

This team is going to suck with either PG. At least Casey is taking charge of the team now and showing he will reward results. He may have regained some credibility with the players.


It's clear Lowry has a strong personality on the court. There's no question he's one of th few who care about winging and play with a high motor. When it comes to this defensive culture it's not lip service wait is coming out of either derozan or Jose. Both who have yet to be held accountable for their snotty D. It's at the point where AA should be subbed in for demar when a keystop is needed. They won 7 of 8 vs teams wit a winning percentage of .302 and have looked pathetic against real teams. I'm sure the guys who want to win can rally around Lowry
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Post#40 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:46 pm by dballislife

man it was hard watching westbrook demolish jose and use him like a lil toy the whole game...meanwhile lowry held his own great playing against a top 3 PG...jrue is destroying jose tmr
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Post#41 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:22 pm by lucky777s

dballislife wrote:man it was hard watching westbrook demolish jose and use him like a lil toy the whole game...meanwhile lowry held his own great playing against a top 3 PG...jrue is destroying jose tmr


You are letting personal bias affect your viewing and memory of events. Lowry got blown by and hung up on screens the same as Jose. The difference might be one or two plays over the course of a game where Lowry can cut him off but not stop him.

Westbrook season averages:
21.7ppg 8.5apg 5.1rpg 3.5TOs

Against the Raps last game:
23pts 7ast 4reb 5TOs below average in assists and boards, much higher TOs.

So where exactly is the abuse of Jose being seen here? Does Jose play for every team in the league and allow even better stats every night.

Lots of Raptors were matched up on Westbrook. We don't have a single defender on this team that can stop this guy one on one. Are there even 3 guys in the league that can.

You don't have to like Jose but at least try to be somewhat fair in making evaluations.
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Post#42 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:35 pm by lucky777s

Illuminati_ wrote:They won 7 of 8 vs teams wit a winning percentage of .302 and have looked pathetic against real teams. I'm sure the guys who want to win can rally around Lowry


OK, but who were they beating with Lowry in the lineup? A decimated MIN team and a crap PHX team (both home games). Not a single road win. Wow. And why were teammates calling him out?

Meanwhile, teams we lost to previously but beat during the win streak - POR, DET, DAL, HOU

Sorry, but you can't use the schedule to boost up Lowry. We even lost to CHA with him starting. We were on pace for a 20 win season with him starting and will likely win 30-35 games over the full season with this supposed top 10 PG here.

He will start. Just relax. The losses are coming. If you really like the guy you should want a few losses before he gets to start. Takes the focus off him.
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Post#43 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:07 pm by Swag

Trading away a pick than could have been used to get Harden is unacceptable and BC should be fired.

We've lost 2 games in a row with Jose starting...I think its time to put Lowry back in the starting lineup - Casey shouldnt be scared to hurt Jose's feelings because Jose wont be a Raptor at the end of Feb.
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