OT - Okafor rejects Durant above the rim at the rim

Rasho is god · Post #31 » by **Rasho is god** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:52 am

Jason Maxiell still has the best highlights of meeting guys at the rim and blocking dunk attempts.

tracey_nice · Post #32 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:59 am

Volcano wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:durant still had control of the ball after okafor made contact with the ball tho :/ (see pic by Volcano) and okafor followed through and hacked his whole arm. nba is soft/refs are corrupt is the meme+agenda though i guess? cool.

Okafor got ball, Durant's momentum created the arm contact as he pushed through for the dunk. No foul

he didn't "get" the ball, he altered it at first and Durant was STILL palming it.

Instead of stopping it head on, he changed it's course of direction while Durant was still controlling it. His follow through was swatting it down on Durant's wrist..THAT part was a foul. It wouldn't have been a foul if Okafor kept his hands straight up in the air.

Ignore everything before the moment of the screenshot that i took. The sequence of events is: 1) ball in Durant's hands 2) Okafor hits Durant's wrists downwards and gets no ball

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

^+juan. yeah. really not that complicated lol. durant still had full control of the ball AFTER okafor got the block. THEN okafor followed through and hacked his arm. obvious foul.

S.W.A.N · Post #33 » by **S.W.A.N** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:33 am

tracey_nice wrote:
Volcano wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:

Okafor got ball, Durant's momentum created the arm contact as he pushed through for the dunk. No foul

he didn't "get" the ball, he altered it at first and Durant was STILL palming it.

Instead of stopping it head on, he changed it's course of direction while Durant was still controlling it. His follow through was swatting it down on Durant's wrist..THAT part was a foul. It wouldn't have been a foul if Okafor kept his hands straight up in the air.

Ignore everything before the moment of the screenshot that i took. The sequence of events is: 1) ball in Durant's hands 2) Okafor hits Durant's wrists downwards and gets no ball

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

^+juan. yeah. really not that complicated lol. durant still had full control of the ball AFTER okafor got the block. THEN okafor followed through and hacked his arm. obvious foul.

No, Okafor clearly goes up and gets full ball. The contact with Durants wrist is on the follow through caused by Durant pushing forward.

You guys are acting like there are two seperate plays, the initial block then the subsequent contact on the wrist. In this case they are not. The initial contact is on the ball, the rest of the play is incidental contact.

tracey_nice · Post #34 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:34 am

durant still had control of the ball after the block!!!!!!!

w/e though.

NBA IS SOFT!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~

[INSERT NAME OF THE ONLY REF I KNOW] SUCKS!!!!!

Dear Leader · Post #35 » by **Dear Leader** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:57 am

J Dilla wrote:That was dirty. RIP Kevin Durant

I've been wanting Okafor for a long time now, if you can swap Oak for Bargnani, you do it in a heartbeat. He won't demand a lot of shots I think he'll be a perfect fit here beside Davis.

If I remember correctly, when Bosh was still here, a trade was proposed that would send G.Wallace/Okafor from the Bobcats for Bargnani. Jesus...

UcanUwill · Post #36 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:26 am

Hell yeah boy!

And it was a clear block, you can see it live. That camera angle lies to you. Emeka grabbed the ball from one side of the ball while Durant was still pushing it from another. They hands touched because the ball is round and was rocketing away because of the pushing force. By no means KD was in control of the ball at that point. Again, camera angle. I doubt Durant even noticed Emeka touched him in that played.

tosi · Post #37 » by **tosi** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:28 am

Wtf do people think blocks are?

You don't tap the ball, you smack it saying "GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE"

Durant was still moving forward while Okafor was blocking, and bumped into Okafor's swat.

Post #38 » by **Double Helix** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:07 pm

As others have said, he made first contact cleanly with the ball and incidental contact after while Durant still had his hand on it. Even if the first contact wasn't so clearly and obviously on the ball the hand is considered part of the ball while an offensive player has the ball in his hand specifically to allow spectacular plays like this (and swipes at the ball from guards) to happen. Few refs would ever have the guts to allow plays Ike that to go on otherwise as it would be far too difficult to know if a defender only "got ball."

PS -These 2 have a pretty solid little rivalry going. Ballislife has the videos breakdowns here:
http://ballislife.com/emeka-okafor-reje ... ach-other/

Hero · Post #39 » by **Hero** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:16 pm

Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

Too Late Crew · Post #40 » by **Too Late Crew** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:55 pm

KD doesn't make the same mistake twice though. Didn't he switch the ball to his left hand and slam over Veasly in the same game?

Okkafor is a good shot blocker. He has solid D awareness and is a very good rebounder. He did his job challenging that shot. That's his job. You might only actually block 1 of 20 of them but at least he knows his job and goes for it even though he knows he may get posterized. If only we could bottle that and feed it to certain Raptors who would have run for cover and hidden behind the ball girl.

sca · Post #41 » by **sca** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:23 pm

Come on, it was an obvious foul. Durant probably would've still finished the play if Okafor didn't hit his arm. It doesn't matter if Okafor made a contact with the ball at first, Durant was still palming it afterwards.

brownbobcat · Post #42 » by **brownbobcat** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:33 pm

Volcano wrote:It's tough to see live, so I have no problem with the non-call, but in hindsight with replay, it's an obvious foul.

DURANT STILL HAS THE BALL AFTER OKAFOR GRAZES IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE TOUCHED THE BALL FIRST. HIS FOLLOW THROUGH AFTERWARDS WAS A COMPLETE FOUL.

LEARN NBA.

I get what you're saying, but I'm OK with letting this kind of play go in the defender's favour. If you want to get real technical, it would also be a shooting foul if Okafor got all ball with his hand, but made arm-to-arm contact with Durant while he still had possession of the ball. It's nearly impossible to get ONLY ball while it's still in the shooter's hand.

TorontoBaller · Post #43 » by **TorontoBaller** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:55 pm

Volcano wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:Those of you calling that a foul should be ashamed of yourselves.

Its a hard call for a ref in the heat of the moment but you have slo mo replay showing contact with the ball before momentum created contact.

Dick Bavetta loves you though.

It's tough to see live, so I have no problem with the non-call, but in hindsight with replay, it's an obvious foul.

DURANT STILL HAS THE BALL AFTER OKAFOR GRAZES IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE TOUCHED THE BALL FIRST. HIS FOLLOW THROUGH AFTERWARDS WAS A COMPLETE FOUL.

LEARN NBA.

Just Cuz you're using caps doesn't make you right.

That was a block.
You guys calling it a foul are either swingin from Kd's thang or have genitals that go inward.

J8Ball · Post #44 » by **J8Ball** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:56 pm

it was clean...
anyone who disagrees is an NBA brainwashed puss

tracey_nice · Post #45 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:37 pm

Hero wrote:Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

3Si · Post #46 » by **3Si** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:40 pm

Those of you that says its a foul must be one of those annoying players who calls every touch fouls in the game. It was clearly a block, what happens after the block was caused by the momentum of KD. KD didn't even complain

416 · Post #47 » by **416** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:15 pm

what happens to this thread when we come to a conclusion on whether it was a block or not?

colonel_von · Post #48 » by **colonel_von** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:01 pm

tracey_nice wrote:
Hero wrote:Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

Got him on the hand after so it was definitely a foul. No such thing as incidental contact.

colonel_von · Post #49 » by **colonel_von** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:02 pm

3Si wrote:Those of you that says its a foul must be one of those annoying players who calls every touch fouls in the game. It was clearly a block, what happens after the block was caused by the momentum of KD. KD didn't even complain

S.W.A.N · Post #50 » by **S.W.A.N** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:15 pm

colonel_von wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:
Hero wrote:Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

Got him on the hand after so it was definitely a foul. No such thing as incidental contact.

http://www.nba.com/features/misundersto ... al_Contact