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SDM wrote:There are no lines in trash talk, there is no definitive "this is too much" moment. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
amen. it seems that a lot of grown men want to fight on the sensitivity battleground.. pro sports is not the place for thin skin, or mentally weak ppl
Why not? It happens in hockey. Football to a degree. KG is free to say whatever he wants. Melo can punch him in the face and deal with the repercussions. What's cool or no big deal to some people is the opposite to others. When people say punk ass comments a punch in the face is a distinct possibility. On the courts or on the streets.
yea but he didn't. Fake tough guy. either ignore it or retaliate on the spot, or wait till he's alone. Dont do that "hold me back guys I am going to their team bus BS" then cry to the media about how the other guy crossed the line. Drama queen.
tracey_nice wrote:and if the difference is btwn 'physical'/'emotional' re: what kg does vs what bowen does, u guys need to realize it is that attitude that has stigmatized mental health in this country. #anxietytrooper
On the words: what?
On the concept: what?
I don't think stigmatized is the word you were looking for.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
In every sport there's the rules and there's the "way the game is played": an understanding of what is allowable and not amongst the players. The same applies in every culture and society, there's law and there is honour/ethos. So to SDM telling me that nothing is off limits I don't know how he can expect me to believe he knows the code that exists amongst NBA players that it consists of no code at all. That would be a major break from all human behaviour everywhere on the planet for the last 5 thousand years. A genuinely extraordinary circumstance.
Garnett reminds me of Sean Avery in that he is a pest who steps over the line of acceptable behaviour amongst players but an effective one. The difference is the NHL has changed rules to protect the ethos of the game from Avery when he has gone to far while the NBA has coddled Garnett while extolling his "passion".
I've never understood why you don't see more settling the score type hard fouls in the NBA. The other day Sefalosha threw Jose to the ground and later we let him go straight to the basket instead of using the opportunity to drive the point home.
I believe the NBA, more than any other professional sport keeps a tight lid on this stuff as it fears the bad image of aggressive black youths being streamed into middle america's living room. Not quite racist but a behaviour based on the expected racism of your market. So the policing yourself aspect gets taken out of the game while it is understood as inherent to baseball, hockey, and to a lesser degree football. What do you get? The eye sore that is Garnett's behaviour which the NBA tacitly condones like the over indulgent parents of a spoiled child while coming down hard on any attempt by players to enforce a standard of behaviour amongst themselves.
Yeah and Avery was suspended and sent to some sort of counselling (he was in a league all on his own - remember the waving stick in front of goalie's face routine? dummy took it to another level by mocking and bullying teammates); eventually his game couldn't compensate for the mental meltdowns and no one wanted to sign him.
To your bolded point, I think the NBA tried hard to revamp its image because that was the misperception of players back in the tape delay days. In a sport in which athletes are more visible compared to say hockey or football the challenges of overcoming those racist perceptions were more difficult. I do agree that the NBA seems like it has looser boundaries for its money making darlings (Griffin with flopping, breathing on MJ or LeBron) and Garnett's behaviour (not just with Melo, but throughout his career) who have been given a pass.
It's true what HP says about words < actions, but in the heat of the moment, it's very hard not to lose it like Melo did. KG banks on it, knowing that if he takes it just a bit further, he'll get the reaction he wants. It's petulant, and it's unfortunate that he has to increasingly resort to it in the twilight of his career as his physical skills diminish. It may be effective here and there, but it kinds of looks pathetic. It will be all the more so if players tune him out.
Danchan wrote: yea but he didn't. Fake tough guy. either ignore it or retaliate on the spot, or wait till he's alone. Dont do that "hold me back guys I am going to their team bus BS" then cry to the media about how the other guy crossed the line. Drama queen.
That's true. It would have been nice to have seen a hard foul delivered by Melo.