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Post#31 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:26 pm by jman3134

If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.
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Post#32 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:27 pm by bonjovi0308

I bet Mem should love to get Calderon's expiring contract...would be very disappointed if BC does nothing and letting Calderon walking for free.
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Post#33 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:33 pm by Mr.Raptorsingh

jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis
Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.


Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.

I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.
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Post#34 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:39 pm by Spacing

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis
Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.


Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.

I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.


Not to mention Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, and Kevin Love (even though they were robbed by Minny)
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Post#35 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:41 pm by SalamiNCheez

Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.
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Post#36 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:41 pm by suntzuballin

jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.

no doubt there probly gonna trade zbo our r gay not both id say rudy b4 zbo that front court of him and gasol beat the spurs that one year without gay
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Post#37 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:43 pm by Greg Stink

Too many double-doubles. Get rid of him.
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Post#38 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:54 pm by carlosey

Maybe its a smokescreen. Perhaps they want more value for Rudy gay so they are trying to show they arent desperate to trade him exactly. Bottom line this is a team trying to avoid the tax.
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Post#39 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:09 am by Spacing

SalamiNCheez wrote:Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.


The new CBA was meant to hurt teams a few years down the line. Once teams start paying the repeat offenders tax which if I am not mistaken is much higher than the current 1:1 tax you will see teams trying to shed payroll unless they have an unlimited bankroll a la Brooklyn. If you aren't putting up a championship caliber team why pay ridiculous amounts of tax money.

This benefits the small market teams by giving them extra income by not overspending. It's essentially free money.

The lockout wasn't about competitive balance on the court but a competitive balance in the teams bank book.
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Post#40 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:02 am by Vorticity

Interesting now that they're trying to trade ZBo for Cousins lol
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Post#41 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:07 am by TheForrestCity

Spacing wrote:
SalamiNCheez wrote:Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.


The new CBA was meant to hurt teams a few years down the line. Once teams start paying the repeat offenders tax which if I am not mistaken is much higher than the current 1:1 tax you will see teams trying to shed payroll unless they have an unlimited bankroll a la Brooklyn. If you aren't putting up a championship caliber team why pay ridiculous amounts of tax money.

This benefits the small market teams by giving them extra income by not overspending. It's essentially free money.

The lockout wasn't about competitive balance on the court but a competitive balance in the teams bank book.


So whats the plan? getting the scraps from a playoff team so they can continue to rebuild?
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Post#42 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:08 am by jman3134

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.

I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.


They acquired Speights and Pondexter. They did not draft them. Arthur was a good selection, but he has recently been hurt.

Selby and Wroten do not play. Wroten was a terrible selection. Thabeet was one of the worst selections imaginable. Xavier Henry was a bad pick, but he showed some early promise/potential at Kansas, so it is tough to look at that one retrospectively. OJ Mayo trade in exchange for Kevin Love.

Mike Conley and Rudy Gay have been good selections.
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Post#43 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:35 am by Hassassin

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On Rudy: Grizz would move but deals not good so far. On ZBo - teams have asked about him. That's it. Not shopping him.
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Post#44 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:38 am by livnthedream416

Trade gray for Z-bo
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Post#45 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:43 am by DatHomieYouHaTe

Dr Positivity wrote:If I'm Memphis I look really hard at a Zbo for Pau deal, presuming Pau's medical records look OK. Their best chance to win the title this year may be to go all in with that Gasol bros deal



Z- bo > pau and it's not even close
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Post#46 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:15 am by Master Ze

TheWire wrote:
Master Ze wrote:3 way deal http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8x7rp6

Memphis trades: Gay + Conley + Bayless
Receive: Calderon, Lowry, Dudley, Beasley + Phoenix first

Phoenix trades: Beasley + Dudley + First round pick
Receive: Gay

Toronto trades: Lowry + Jose
Receive: Conley + Bayless


Who would be our starting PG? Machado?

You do know who Mike Conley is right?
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Post#47 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:00 am by _Choco_

Breaking up the best big pairing in the league...so dumb
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Post#48 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:30 am by ReturnofMVP3

ownership is absolutely crazy if they try to trade Zbo, one of the best PF in the league unless they are getting a LeBron/KD/CP3/Melo/Wade/Kobe type player :lol:
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Post#49 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:32 am by TheAlchemist

I rather we trade for Zbo then Gay. That way we don't reproduce what Demar gives you.
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Post#50 Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:45 am by TheAlchemist

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