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Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:26 am
by jman3134
If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:27 am
by bonjovi0308
I bet Mem should love to get Calderon's expiring contract...would be very disappointed if BC does nothing and letting Calderon walking for free.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:33 am
by Mr.Raptorsingh
jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis
Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.
Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.
I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:39 am
by Spacing
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis
Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.
Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.
I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.
Not to mention Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, and Kevin Love (even though they were robbed by Minny)
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:41 am
by Spicy P
Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:41 am
by suntzuballin
jman3134 wrote:If this ever happens, I will permanently advocate getting rid of everyone in that Memphis Grizzlies front office. It's bad enough that they don't know how to scout draft talent.
no doubt there probly gonna trade zbo our r gay not both id say rudy b4 zbo that front court of him and gasol beat the spurs that one year without gay
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:43 am
by Greg Stink
Too many double-doubles. Get rid of him.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:54 am
by carlosey
Maybe its a smokescreen. Perhaps they want more value for Rudy gay so they are trying to show they arent desperate to trade him exactly. Bottom line this is a team trying to avoid the tax.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:09 am
by Spacing
SalamiNCheez wrote:Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.
The new CBA was meant to hurt teams a few years down the line. Once teams start paying the repeat offenders tax which if I am not mistaken is much higher than the current 1:1 tax you will see teams trying to shed payroll unless they have an unlimited bankroll a la Brooklyn. If you aren't putting up a championship caliber team why pay ridiculous amounts of tax money.
This benefits the small market teams by giving them extra income by not overspending. It's essentially free money.
The lockout wasn't about competitive balance on the court but a competitive balance in the teams bank book.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:02 am
by Vorticity
Interesting now that they're trying to trade ZBo for Cousins lol
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:07 am
by TheForrestCity
Spacing wrote:SalamiNCheez wrote:Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.
The new CBA was meant to hurt teams a few years down the line. Once teams start paying the repeat offenders tax which if I am not mistaken is much higher than the current 1:1 tax you will see teams trying to shed payroll unless they have an unlimited bankroll a la Brooklyn. If you aren't putting up a championship caliber team why pay ridiculous amounts of tax money.
This benefits the small market teams by giving them extra income by not overspending. It's essentially free money.
The lockout wasn't about competitive balance on the court but a competitive balance in the teams bank book.
So whats the plan? getting the scraps from a playoff team so they can continue to rebuild?
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:08 am
by jman3134
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.
I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.
They acquired Speights and Pondexter. They did not draft them. Arthur was a good selection, but he has recently been hurt.
Selby and Wroten do not play. Wroten was a terrible selection. Thabeet was one of the worst selections imaginable. Xavier Henry was a bad pick, but he showed some early promise/potential at Kansas, so it is tough to look at that one retrospectively. OJ Mayo trade in exchange for Kevin Love.
Mike Conley and Rudy Gay have been good selections.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:35 am
by Hassassin
@ChrisVernonShow
On Rudy: Grizz would move but deals not good so far. On ZBo - teams have asked about him. That's it. Not shopping him.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:38 am
by livnthedream416
Trade gray for Z-bo
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:43 am
by DatHomieYouHaTe
Dr Positivity wrote:If I'm Memphis I look really hard at a Zbo for Pau deal, presuming Pau's medical records look OK. Their best chance to win the title this year may be to go all in with that Gasol bros deal
Z- bo > pau and it's not even close
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 8:15 am
by Mister Ze
TheWire wrote:Master Ze wrote:3 way deal
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8x7rp6 Memphis trades: Gay + Conley + Bayless
Receive: Calderon, Lowry, Dudley, Beasley + Phoenix first
Phoenix trades: Beasley + Dudley + First round pick
Receive: Gay
Toronto trades: Lowry + Jose
Receive: Conley + Bayless
Who would be our starting PG? Machado?
You do know who Mike Conley is right?
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:00 am
by _Choco_
Breaking up the best big pairing in the league...so dumb
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:30 am
by ReturnofMVP3
ownership is absolutely crazy if they try to trade Zbo, one of the best PF in the league unless they are getting a LeBron/KD/CP3/Melo/Wade/Kobe type player
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:32 am
by TheAlchemist
I rather we trade for Zbo then Gay. That way we don't reproduce what Demar gives you.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:45 am
by TheAlchemist
Double post*