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Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:07 am
by TheForrestCity
Spacing wrote:SalamiNCheez wrote:Weren't all those luxury tax rules supposed to help small market teams and even the playing field? We've seen Harden go to Houston and now Memphis is trying to dump their best players. Meanwhile Lakers, Nets, Knicks, etc. still have some of the highest payrolls.
The new CBA was meant to hurt teams a few years down the line. Once teams start paying the repeat offenders tax which if I am not mistaken is much higher than the current 1:1 tax you will see teams trying to shed payroll unless they have an unlimited bankroll a la Brooklyn. If you aren't putting up a championship caliber team why pay ridiculous amounts of tax money.
This benefits the small market teams by giving them extra income by not overspending. It's essentially free money.
The lockout wasn't about competitive balance on the court but a competitive balance in the teams bank book.
So whats the plan? getting the scraps from a playoff team so they can continue to rebuild?
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:08 am
by jman3134
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Dude, the Grizzlies drafted/acquired Speights, Arthur, Selby, Wroten, all of whom are sitting on the bench, & all of whom were highly thought of at one point. You guys also have Pondexter, who whenever I've watched him play, seems like a good young role-playing wing.
I think the Grizzlies have accumulated some nice young talent through the draft - the Xavier Henry pick was a bust, however.
They acquired Speights and Pondexter. They did not draft them. Arthur was a good selection, but he has recently been hurt.
Selby and Wroten do not play. Wroten was a terrible selection. Thabeet was one of the worst selections imaginable. Xavier Henry was a bad pick, but he showed some early promise/potential at Kansas, so it is tough to look at that one retrospectively. OJ Mayo trade in exchange for Kevin Love.
Mike Conley and Rudy Gay have been good selections.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:35 am
by Hassassin
@ChrisVernonShow
On Rudy: Grizz would move but deals not good so far. On ZBo - teams have asked about him. That's it. Not shopping him.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:38 am
by livnthedream416
Trade gray for Z-bo
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 6:43 am
by DatHomieYouHaTe
Dr Positivity wrote:If I'm Memphis I look really hard at a Zbo for Pau deal, presuming Pau's medical records look OK. Their best chance to win the title this year may be to go all in with that Gasol bros deal
Z- bo > pau and it's not even close
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 8:15 am
by Mister Ze
TheWire wrote:Master Ze wrote:3 way deal
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8x7rp6 Memphis trades: Gay + Conley + Bayless
Receive: Calderon, Lowry, Dudley, Beasley + Phoenix first
Phoenix trades: Beasley + Dudley + First round pick
Receive: Gay
Toronto trades: Lowry + Jose
Receive: Conley + Bayless
Who would be our starting PG? Machado?
You do know who Mike Conley is right?
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:00 am
by _Choco_
Breaking up the best big pairing in the league...so dumb
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:30 am
by ReturnofMVP3
ownership is absolutely crazy if they try to trade Zbo, one of the best PF in the league unless they are getting a LeBron/KD/CP3/Melo/Wade/Kobe type player
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:32 am
by TheAlchemist
I rather we trade for Zbo then Gay. That way we don't reproduce what Demar gives you.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:45 am
by TheAlchemist
Double post*
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:00 pm
by TheAlchemist
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:Dr Positivity wrote:If I'm Memphis I look really hard at a Zbo for Pau deal, presuming Pau's medical records look OK. Their best chance to win the title this year may be to go all in with that Gasol bros deal
Z- bo > pau and it's not even close
LOL... oh boy. Pau has lost so much of what made him a good player. I could see this happening 5-6 years ago maybe, but not now. ZBO is 3 times the player Pau is.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:55 pm
by FirstInkTDot
I don't think Z-Bo would do as great on other teams if he were to be Traded, he has great chemistry on that Grizzlies team.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:16 pm
by StopitLeo
Zach would be my preference over Gay. He is just a low post beast.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:32 pm
by lucky777s
MEM is just gauging interest in their players and seeing what value they could get for each right now.
Some in the org may feel PF is easier to replace than SF.
2yrs/34 vs. 2yrs/37 remaining. So injury concerns and ability to replace production may become the deciding factors.
Zach is 31 years old and not the best conditioned guy in the world. I bet that is a big factor here.
It does start to make more sense when you look deeper.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:30 pm
by Natural11
Get that team out of Memphis. Any organization that looks to tank their 4th place team doesn't deserve a franchise.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:36 pm
by niQ
TheAlchemist wrote:I rather we trade for Zbo then Gay. That way we don't reproduce what Demar gives you.
Re: WT- MEM exploring randolph trade
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:55 pm
by Greg Stink
Natural11 wrote:Get that team out of Memphis. Any organization that looks to tank their 4th place team doesn't deserve a franchise.
I don't think they're tanking, they're just not able to get the most out of Rudy so his 25% overpayment looks like 50%. No way ZBo is being shopped, no way they dump both in cap moves. They're just taking calls.