OT: Espn - Drummond could rank as 'greatest teen' in NBA his

[SDM]

I'm starting to think "character issues" is code for "uppity".

[peja drobnjak]

did 'character issues' really hurt attendance and viewership during the jailblazer days or was it just moralizing fidgeting from the front office that broke them up?

[MikeM]

Character issues and interviewing people that "know" the 17/18 year old is the biggest croc of **** in the draft.

What's a bigger red flag? The fact that Drummond seemed aloof sometimes in a terrible program as a teenager or the fact that Terrence Ross can't dribble a basketball?

If you are avoiding players because they seem disinterested or slow as a teenager then how the hell does your management staff earn their pay cheques? If you're scared that you might have to actually develop a prospect then GTFO.

"Character issues" drives me up the wall.

Guy commits crime. Punches teammates. Beats girlfriend. Character issues.

Guy doesn't know what he's doing on the court. Doesn't know opponents. Character issues.

Wut

[ATLTimekeeper]

did 'character issues' really hurt attendance and viewership during the jailblazer days or was it just moralizing fidgeting from the front office that broke them up?

look it up

[Spacing]

The anti-drummond people claim "red flags"

when you ask them what the red flags were they ramble and keep shouting "red flags"

[ATLTimekeeper]

"Character issues" drives me up the wall.

Guy commits crime. Punches teammates. Beats girlfriend. Character issues.

Guy doesn't know what he's doing on the court. Doesn't know opponents. Character issues.

Wut

Seems like you're really struggling with the concept of character evaluation. It's not exclusive to the Raptors.

[MikeM]

"Character issues" drives me up the wall.

Guy commits crime. Punches teammates. Beats girlfriend. Character issues.

Guy doesn't know what he's doing on the court. Doesn't know opponents. Character issues.

Wut

Seems like you're really struggling with the concept of character evaluation. It's not exclusive to the Raptors.

We got a thread right above this talking about Josh Smith to TO.

Just got suspended for getting kicked out of practice.

Character issues.

[tracey_nice]

"Character issues" drives me up the wall.

Guy commits crime. Punches teammates. Beats girlfriend. Character issues.

Guy doesn't know what he's doing on the court. Doesn't know opponents. Character issues.

Wut

Seems like you're really struggling with the concept of character evaluation. It's not exclusive to the Raptors.

EXCLUSIVE TO PERPETUAL LOTTERY TEAMS.

[hillbilly hare]

I'm starting to think "character issues" is code for "uppity".

To be honest I did sense at least some racist stereotyping in the Drummond red flag rumors. A huge black kid (a bit like the character in the Green Mile movie) maybe seems a bit slow, lethargic, unable to learn basic plays. At least nobody came out and said dumb and lazy. A real shame, and a real fail, on the part of GMs who bought into the rumors without verifying one way or the other. If Drummond's own coach says he's a good kid and quick learner, why go out of your way to think up and worry about alleged rumors?

[BirdmanPresents]

[ansoncarter]

what if they changed it from "character issues" to "won't reach potential"

whether they're dumb green mile people, or lazy charlie v people, you can't pretend it doesn't exist. Stromile swift, tyrus thomas. Character issues aren't some minor thing. I mean "won't reach potential" isn't some minor thing. And it still might not be with draymond

ignore it and you might get lucky, or you might end up with Mike Olowakandi instead of Vince Carter. Or darko instead of bosh. Or kwame and Eddy Curry instead of pau gasol

I even remember Eddy Curry's draft special, when the cameras got to his house he was sitting on the couch playing xbox with a bag of potato chips beside him

[tracey_nice]

ignore it and you might get lucky, or you might end up with Mike Olowakandi instead of Vince Carter. Or darko instead of bosh. Or kwame and Eddy Curry instead of pau gasol

none of those players are anything alike (skill-wise or mentally/physically) :/

[tracey_nice]

it's like last night, watching Jrue Holiday destroy the raptors. i couldn't stop thinking in Simmons-esque terms like "wow, Holiday has so much poise". but, it's a stupid thing to think about. because Jeff Teague has poise, too. however, he just doesn't have elite talent and can't make certain plays skill-wise.

so, like always, take talent and figure the rest out later. bad teams don't have the luxury of overlooking talent. athletic wings are a dime-a-dozen.

[Raps in 4]

what if they changed it from "character issues" to "won't reach potential"

whether they're dumb green mile people, or lazy charlie v people, you can't pretend it doesn't exist. Stromile swift, tyrus thomas. Character issues aren't some minor thing. I mean "won't reach potential" isn't some minor thing. And it still might not be with draymond

ignore it and you might get lucky, or you might end up with Mike Olowakandi instead of Vince Carter. Or darko instead of bosh. Or kwame and Eddy Curry instead of pau gasol

I even remember Eddy Curry's draft special, when the cameras got to his house he was sitting on the couch playing xbox with a bag of potato chips beside him

You take that kind of risk at #8.

[ansoncarter]

ignore it and you might get lucky, or you might end up with Mike Olowakandi instead of Vince Carter. Or darko instead of bosh. Or kwame and Eddy Curry instead of pau gasol

none of those players are anything alike (skill-wise or mentally/physically) :/

I know. Some had "won't reach potential" issues. And didn't reach their potential.

olowakandi didn't like basketball, charlie v was lazy, stromile and tyrus were morons, Darko was a weirdo who wants to throw all the daughters of the members of parliament off the parliament building, or whatever he said, Kwame was a baby in a grown man's body and Eddy Curry liked to play xbox and eat potato chips

@Ussjtrunks, I agree a team like the raptors should have taken him. Especially in that draft. Just talking about "won't reach potential" issues in general. Draymond is looking good so people are acting like "won't reach potential" issues aren't a big deal. Of all the players over the years predicted to have those issues, like 90% ended up underwhelming