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Post#226 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:41 am by Tha Cynic

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Tha Cynic wrote:I don't care if the team losses every single game for the rest of the season - play the players who matter, and have them play in a proper rotation with plays run for them. Develop your young players.


Unlike the Lakers, the young players we develop will bolt to another team.

Welcome to our world.


They didn't bolt when the Raptors actually put a good product on the floor. All players want is money and a good team to play on.
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Post#227 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:44 am by Clutch Carter

Has DD ever hit a clutch shot?
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Post#228 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:45 am by Death Knight

I missed 3.5 quarters of the game and only watched the last 5mins and ot. It really bothers me that Lowry continues to be asked to be more like Calderon. It never seemed right to have Lowry dribble the ball until 5-7 seconds left on the clock before making a move. Raps were playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Lowry going for 11pts and 11 asts is not the Lowry I know at his best. That statline is more in line with a Calderon. Low scoring, high asts. The Lowry I know at his best should be 20+ pts and 6-8. What have they done to Lowry????????????????
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Post#229 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:50 am by ROBBS

Lowry and Ross have some good chemistry imo. Maybe one day they'll start and play major minutes together.
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Post#230 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:52 am by Danchan

Derozan started the game 3/3 and ended with 4/10
Which means he shot 1/7 the rest of thee way.

Funny thing is that this is the norm from why I've seen over last 2 years. It's just more apparent now
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Post#231 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:56 am by Danchan

Btw Ross and acy are the only 2 with positive plus/minus.

Yet we all saw how Ross was bench to make way for DD to close most of the 4th and OT.

Said it before, but say it again... DD isnt just slowly improving, he is also stopping other real talent from getting the opportunity to improve. Because they will never cut the poster boys minutes
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Post#232 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:59 am by ROBBS

Ross had 18/7 in 25 minutes on 50% shooting, 4/5 from 3.

I wish we were in a situation where he could play through mistakes and got big minutes. Only guy with a positive +/- (yes I'ms sure it sucks but whatever) along with Acy.
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Post#233 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:59 am by TJ11

Danchan wrote:Derozan started the game 3/3 and ended with 4/10
Which means he shot 1/7 the rest of thee way.

Funny thing is that this is the norm from why I've seen over last 2 years. It's just more apparent now


He did the same thing against chicago started 4/4 went 2/11 the rest of the way.

Both games we were begging for a bucket and golden boy couldnt do ****
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Post#234 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:20 am by Garmfay

Casey's hard on for certain guys is pissing me off. AA becoming the #1 option is stupid while he prefers Jose to Lowry because of Lowry's selfishness..its ironic. Anderson is obviously playing for a contract
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Post#235 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:28 am by ballislife

Garmfay wrote:Casey's hard on for certain guys is pissing me off. AA becoming the #1 option is stupid while he prefers Jose to Lowry because of Lowry's selfishness..its ironic. Anderson is obviously playing for a contract



This is a piss off for sure. I think our best lineup today was easily Lowry, Ross, Anderson, Davis, Amir. With that our #1 scorer should have been either Lowry or Ross. Davis was having a great game as well, he should've been fed in the post early. Amir was/is just solid. He's the glue guy. Anderson should've been given only open shots. I felt that he imposed his will to shoot a lot of the shots he took. A lot of them were contested, unnecessary shots. He could've swung the ball for better shots. Ross had it going tonight and with confidence, I think he'd be a lights out player. Lowry is our most clutch player. He's the only guy that should get shots when we need them most. Casey is a bad head coach... his in-game decision making is beyond terrible.
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Post#236 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:35 am by dTox

Didn't watch the game yet again (thank God), as I pretty much quit on this season and awaiting the removal of BC/Casey. Looks like a thing hasn't changed, Casey still screwing up in a situation he could've easily won with proper rotation and our mediocre players coming up short during the clutch.

And the worst part is, the GM claims it's not a talent issue!
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Post#237 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:38 am by dTox

And I do have a little hate for Anderson, he's clearly playing for a contract and though he would be helpful on a veteran team, he's just getting in the way of Ross' development, along with Davis and Jonas (upon his return) because those 15 or so shots Anderson hoists can be rather given to the younger guys to work on their game. He's a solid back up though but totally not what this team needs at age 30, we definitely could've piled up a few extra losses last year if he wasn't there and we probably could've had a Damian Lillard on our hands.
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Post#238 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:46 am by Bankai

Illuminati_ wrote:lol there is no pg who can lockup guards by himself. Thats asking too much from a pg most you can ask is for them to contain the dribble and he did that.

He also conveniently left out the part where Lowry had a great game most of the night, and was integral in building up the 19 point lead, and was only brought in quickly in the 3rd because Jose was even worse against Jrue and coughed up 9 points in 4 mins while Lowry at least held on better for the same amount in 7 1/2 mins. I know he had a bad OT but the guy played 2 1/2 Q + OT, he was going to be slow at some point. For the most part he was contesting shots, but their were times where he did get blown by.

Plus any smart person would know that was a play for a baseline screen give-and-go for Lowry and not a handoff (Rondo and KG do that exact same play all the time). Too bad it didnt register with Derozan who held on for a couple of secs went the other way and then jacked a 3. Demar simply did not know the intention and they bumped into each other.

On a lighter note... Jack's voice was so hilarious this game, I wished he did the whole thing.
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Post#239 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:34 am by Rapsalot

Danchan wrote:Derozan started the game 3/3 and ended with 4/10
Which means he shot 1/7 the rest of thee way.

Funny thing is that this is the norm from why I've seen over last 2 years. It's just more apparent now


It is crazy they run plays for him he has success then they stop running plays and he tries to ISO & it does not work. In the last qurter I saw very little team ball tonight just guys taking turns trying to " take their man " we know this does not work for us.
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Post#240 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:13 am by Big Shot

I know it shouldn't have to come down to that. But the coach couldn't draw up an inbound play down the stretch to save his life. Pathetic!

Again, another loss of 7 points or less!!! :nonono:
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Post#241 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:32 am by Centre Court

Clutch Carter wrote:Has DD ever hit a clutch shot?


No he has not. Our 'go-to' guy is a 'can't do guy'.
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Post#242 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:32 am by Big Shot

lucky777s wrote:And on offense he created nothing except the same perimeter passes to 3pt shooters that Jose can do.


I agreed with this. Lowry could've done better than that. Without the penetration, he is not the Lowry I would like to have.

Having said that, he should be the least one we put the blame on. Momentum has been switched at the point when he was subbed in in the 3rdQ. He could somehow stop the bleeding but just couldn't heal the wound completely.
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Post#243 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:00 am by Raptorfan2012

Only saw the 4th quarter and over time, but I saw Holiday abuse Lowry like no tomorrow. Where are all the Lowry fans/Calderon haters now? Offense during the OT was embarrassing, like the team had no clue what to do. I love Casey but he is not a very good strategist.. something has to be done.
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Post#244 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:22 am by jstarks10

Raptorfan2012 wrote:Only saw the 4th quarter and over time, but I saw Holiday abuse Lowry like no tomorrow. Where are all the Lowry fans/Calderon haters now? Offense during the OT was embarrassing, like the team had no clue what to do. I love Casey but he is not a very good strategist.. something has to be done.


I was also wondering why Lowry kept allowing Jrue to run past him...esp. the 2nd half. It could be that he had 4 fouls and he didn't want to get fouled out. But Lowry didn't seem confident at all yesterday. There were shots that he should have put up instead of passing it. He was 3/11 including the half court 1 sec buzzer shot he almost made in. Something was off, but he racked up 11 assists.
I actually wanted him to shoot more. Taking 10 shots (minus the half court) it unacceptable for a player like him, when players at his level usually take 20 shots. Offense was flowing better with Lowry in. Philly was shutting him down, prolly why he racked up 11 assists.

Like I said before, the main problems with this game is:

- the 1st unit at the 3rd qtr. There was no offense and defense.
- Taking out ross at the 4th. He was on FIRE. Let him take the shots! Every rookie is going to have an explosive game and this was his.
- Where was Lowry/Acy combo? These two were breaking the Philly's offense and all of sudden, these two stopped running their high PnR plays.
- Calderon....why the hell did he pass it to AA who was so close to the damn baseline and there were 2 defenders lurking right behind him. - This was the main reason why we lost.
- At OT - this whole team was a mess.
- The last play - DD thought the play was for him. He was suppose to pass it right back to Lowry while he gave him a screen.
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Post#245 Re: PG: Bed crap
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:37 am by Undefeated

I'm sorry, but Jrue only went off on Lowry in OT after playing almost the entire second half. And Lowry was the reason Ross had all those open looks because of his ability to get into the paint almost at will. Calderon didn't even step foot once in the paint last night. Yikes! But the main reason is I don't know why the Raptors keep telling the bigs to show hard instead of dropping back to contain the dribble penetration. It's been twice this season that a PG has step thru and split the Raptors' PnR defense like hot butter. First Brandon Knight now Jrue Holiday.
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