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Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:05 am
by Mister Ze
Was the team that desperate to hold onto him even after drafting Ross that they had to overpay him? What has he shown that was so promising prior to the extension? No 3 pt shot, poor ball handling, lack of court vision, and can't create when it matters.

Looking at his game log,

-He's scored 20 or more in 15/39 games this season.
-8/15 of those games were against playoff teams
-0/8 resulted in wins

So he's pretty much the type of player who can score in bunches against losing teams but can't carry this team to a win against a playoff team. Yet this franchise has offered him a ridiculously overpaid extension. At least if they waited for him to expire he would've had a higher incentive to play well like Jennings and they would've had some insurance at the 2 with Ross.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:06 am
by J-Roc
Hey he has a tradeable contract. Like Jose. Like Bargs....

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:09 am
by Chaos Engine
You know when even Le Doug criticized this signing it was bad. No team was going to offer Demar a max deal. It was the most pointless contract of all the extensions signed before the season. Bobcats or Wizards weren't waiting for Demar to become an RFA.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:11 am
by Geddy
Classic case of BC outbidding himself

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:13 am
by J-Roc
Hey BC put a lot of thought into this. It's not like he raced down to the tunnel before the season opener to sign DeMar before his hit the court.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:14 am
by TheGoodDoctor
Not we.....BC.


He outbids himself every f*cking time.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:15 am
by sanity
The 0.01% chance that somehow another team would offer him a 10m/year contract. Perhaps Phoenix? Nah.

Imo it was even worse than Bargnani's extension

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:16 am
by DHK
Before the extension I was heavily wondering if Charlotte would do a DD for Henderson swap; Henderson fits in what Casey wants to do better then Derozan does..but anyway...its still too early to call; I'd give him this season and the next to prove himself. Right now he's still on his rookie deal.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:16 am
by DHK
Before the extension I was heavily wondering if Charlotte would do a DD for Henderson swap; Henderson fits in what Casey wants to do better then Derozan does..but anyway...its still too early to call; I'd give him this season and the next to prove himself. Right now he's still on his rookie deal.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:17 am
by TheGoodDoctor
DHK wrote:Before the extension I was heavily wondering if Charlotte would do a DD for Henderson swap; Henderson fits in what Casey wants to do better then Derozan does..but anyway...its still too early to call; I'd give him this season and the next to prove himself. Right now he's still on his rookie deal.


If I get into my Hot Tub Time Machine I swear you're talking about Bargnani.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:18 am
by now and 4 life
It was 100% nonsensical I don't even understand why we had to sign him at the time we did and never mind the money he was signed for.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:19 am
by El Bow
Geddy wrote:Classic case of BC outbidding himself


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Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:21 am
by J Dilla
I want to like DeRozan but this is a make or break year for him. After this year this is the DeRozan you should expect to get for the rest of his career.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:22 am
by Beardman
The other 29 GM's were probably looking at the papers like "What the hell DeRozan extended for 40 mil ? he outbids himself again *shakes head in disbelief* *chuckle*"

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:22 am
by Raps in 4
They weren't.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:23 am
by Mister Ze
The main problem that I have with this team is how Demar, Fields, Bargnani, and Kleiza will be making 31.1M next season; that's more than half of the salary cap devoted to a bunch of bench players.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:23 am
by DatHomieYouHaTe
DHK wrote:Before the extension I was heavily wondering if Charlotte would do a DD for Henderson swap; Henderson fits in what Casey wants to do better then Derozan does..but anyway...its still too early to call; I'd give him this season and the next to prove himself. Right now he's still on his rookie deal.

Are you kidding me? How long does this guy have to play to prove he's a scrub? He's just not a good player.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:25 am
by DHK
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
DHK wrote:Before the extension I was heavily wondering if Charlotte would do a DD for Henderson swap; Henderson fits in what Casey wants to do better then Derozan does..but anyway...its still too early to call; I'd give him this season and the next to prove himself. Right now he's still on his rookie deal.

Are you kidding me? How long does this guy have to play to prove he's a scrub? He's just not a good player.

He's not a scrub though, that's an exaggeration. And if you are serious about that comment; he's already proven he's not one and at the very least a rotational player.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:27 am
by TheGoodDoctor
El Bow wrote:
Geddy wrote:Classic case of BC outbidding himself


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It's so sad we make fun of it but it really is the truth.

Who was going to give Amir anywhere near the MLE nevermind above it?

Give Calderon anything more than MLE nevermind double it?

I would be shocked if anyone gave DeRozan over $7M/yr and really that should have been his cut off...Bargnani is another repeat of Calderon's contract. I really think anywhere from $5-7M would have been the tops anyone offered him.

It's so sad to think what these guys actually could have netted had they been re-signed for what they are worth not on what Bryan hopes they can be and never are. Right now Jose at $5-6M, Bargnani at $5-7M, Amir at $3-5M and DeRozan at $6-7M all looks so much sexier for other teams to trade for (nevermind just decent cap management). It's depressing thinking what they could have netted in trades since they would be fair value contracts or what possibilties they would have allowed for with extra cap.

Re: Derozan Extension: What Were They Thinking?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:29 am
by raptorfan416
raptor fans i tell you.. THE SAME THING WAS SAID ABOUT AMIR WHEN BC GAVE HIM THAT CONTRACT.. now who's saying anything about amir contract ? remember when people on here saying use the amnesty on amir ? raptor fans need to stop b#tching and crying after every loss. yes i know the losing is fustrating but my god after every damn time we lose a game it's 6 topics about a certain player being over paid or how crap that player is.. nobody says nothing when the team is winning, but the moment we loose a game all of a sudden it's this player is garbage, he can't do this he can't do that, the next time that same player goes on a run like jose did it's resign him, he's beast :-? face facts here most of the teams in the league got overpaid players on their roster... when the team is winning nobody is saying nothing but once the team loses a game it's who's on copping block now, if it's not brags its demar, if it's not demar its lowry, if it's not lowry its jose, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP THE F*CKING BITCHING,THE CRYING AND CALLING OUT RANDOM PLAYERS AFTER EVERY LOST.. this team on a whole is an inconsistent team. name one consistent player on this team ? i rest my case.