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Derozan's BS "work ethic"

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Post#1 Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:59 am by two5

I can't fathom how people say Derozan has a really good work ethic and repeat this drivel. It is because we are so used to players hardly putting in any work on their games and treating the game like a 8-4 government job that we see an undertalented player who has an average work ethic think he is some sort of gym rat.

Compared to any other talented player/prospects the guy has a below average work ethic.

If he works so hard then why does he have such a mediocre FT%? why isn't he close to a 90% FT shooter given his demeanor & work ethic? He spends probably very little time working on FT's. Why can't he shoot consistently? or even shoot the 3 decently? After all, great shooters spend hours and hours & even go as far as working in a dark gym (Ray Allen) before the lights are on to improve their shot. Why can't he even dribble/go left or dribble with his head up?

Do you see those guys doing development in the Drew League?

This guy is a fraud. I can't believe some of you bought into his hard work BS. He doesn't eat, sleep or breathe basketball. He'll maybe spend one hour after practice doing useless drills that never work in game and the Raptors will sell it as quantifiable BS. Oh yeah I watched video on the New Year. Which good player doesn't watch video. It's special because I watched it on the new year. Good for you that makes you even bigger of a loser.

This guy is just a garbage overrated pile of dog feces, repackaged and sold into a happy meal.
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Post#2 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:00 am by SalamiNCheez

Blood, sweat and tears doesn't always produce positive results. DeRozan just doesn't have it.
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Post#3 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:04 am by Throwback24

DD's work ethic helped him become the player he is today. In 2K his potential would be 60.
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Post#4 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:05 am by tracey_nice

it's because he wants to be like Kobe. jordan/kobe ruined a generation of SG's.
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Post#5 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:06 am by Beardman

Well I remember when he couldn't do anything except slash ... so there has to some truth to it.
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Post#6 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:07 am by Death Knight

tracey_nice wrote:it's because he wants to be like Kobe. jordan/kobe ruined a generation of SG's.


Agreed. Too many guys trying things they can't do.
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Post#7 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:07 am by Left Side Drive

Yep, I will criticize him as a player but I won't question his work ethic. How can anyone on RealGM know how much he has invested in the game and how much he studies the game or how hard he works out? He probably goes hard in practice too.

But he just doesn't have that shooting stroke or ball-handling ability that can make him a competent starter at the shooting guard position in this league. Also, he has a weird body type as he has the athleticism but his lateral quickness is lacking making it difficult for him to defend anyone. Also, seems too get up high but he moves too slow (runs slow too :-? )
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SF: T. Ross / James Johnson / B. Caboclo / J. Hamilton
PF: Amir Johnson / P. Patterson / T. Hansbrough
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Post#8 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:10 am by ballislife

He works hard... no doubt... but he just isn't that good. If any of us on this board worked as hard as we possibly could to be great, we still wouldnt be that good. The same goes for DeMar. He's a hard worker, but he doesn't have the natural talent... as described when he was drafted... he was a "raw" prospect. I commend his work, but honestly it doesn't result in greatness like we all want. If VC had DeRozan's mindset, he would've been one of the best of all time - somewhere near Kobe.

One thing I can say is that IF Ross has the same work ethic as DeRozan, he will be one of the best SGs in the league. Ross has the natural talent to be a very, very good player. He can shoot, and he's one of the most athletic guys in the league. I would take Ross over DeRozan 10/10 times for our future.
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Post#9 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:12 am by TheGoodDoctor

There's nothing wrong with his work ethic.

There is plenty wrong with his talent.

Great work ethic transforming a player into a great player is a complete myth/wive's tale that just won't die on the Raptor forum. I said this in another thread but a 17yr old Lebron is better than a present day DeRozan and it doesn't matter how many hours DeMar logs in the gym he will never be that talented.

I'll repeat this:

Great work ethic improves a player; it does not recreate a player.


Work ethic seperated Kobe Bryant from Vince Carter and DeMar DeRozan from Desmond Mason.

It did not make it possible where DeMar DeRozan can become Kobe Bryant.


Hopefully this myth will die very soon.
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Post#10 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:13 am by ROBBS

How funny. VC had superstar talent but criticized for work ethic, drive, and the like. Demar comes along with those things reversed
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Post#11 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:14 am by Left Side Drive

ROBBS wrote:How funny. VC had superstar talent but criticized for work ethic, drive, and the like. Demar comes along with those things reversed

And it is obvious who we like more...talent wins games
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Post#12 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:16 am by BC_IS_A_PLAYA

Str8 up bro, totally agree with OP


Fraud like Manti T'eo


We should call him Demar DeScumbag
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Post#13 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:20 am by Death Knight

BC_IS_A_PLAYA wrote:Str8 up bro, totally agree with OP


Fraud like Manti T'eo


We should call him Demar DeScumbag


Nah man.............I saw DeMar's gf in one of those open court videos on raptors.com. It must be real. :lol:
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Post#14 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:22 am by Left Side Drive

Death Knight wrote:
BC_IS_A_PLAYA wrote:Str8 up bro, totally agree with OP


Fraud like Manti T'eo


We should call him Demar DeScumbag


Nah man.............I saw DeMar's gf in one of those open court videos on raptors.com. It must be real. :lol:

What she look like? Screenshot?
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SG: D. DeRozan / L. Williams / L. Fields
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Post#15 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:44 am by sanity

His love for the finesse, fadeaway bailout **** ruined his potential as a competent swingman who could score on good percentages. The imitation of someone like Bryant is right, but without the talent... which is a mediocre player who plays with a sense of entitlement but hasn't done much to earn it (he hasn't carried a bad team like Bosh has). It doesn't help one bit that defensively he's about as bad as ever. He's regressed from last year in that aspect which angers me most about him. Its inexcusable to be that bad defensively. Its downright irresponsible considering the contract year and all... (thanks Bryan Colangelo!)
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Post#16 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:35 am by Indeed

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1225981

Not sure why we need another thread for the same discussion. There was discussion about off game hard working vs in game mental toughness.
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Post#17 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:49 am by Bankai

He does work hard but he was too raw to begin with. Its like starting a 100m dash, 10m behind the rest. Lots of ground to cover.
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Post#18 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:54 am by UcanUwill

No one here knows how hard or not hard he works. Work you put into is just a one thing.

PS. Lance had his whole huge confession the other day, and people are talking how much of the fraud Manti Te'o is?
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Post#19 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:01 am by C_Money

It doesn't matter how hard you work if you don't do the right things.

Demar likes to play pick-up games with Brandon Jennings all summer and neither one of them has improved from their rookie seasons.

Lesson learned.
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Post#20 Re: Derozan's BS "work ethic"
Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:05 am by darth_federer

BC said this a couple of years ago when talking about his work ethic. It isnt how hard you work but how smart you work. There is no doubt that Derozan puts in the time but is he being efficient? In some ways its counterproductive for him to spend 3 hours in a gym after a game late at night when he has a game the next day.
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