MEM/CLE trade: Speights on the move, Griz escape Lux tax

[martypython]

Cleveland did something similar a few years back when they took on Davis' horrible contract but got a first round pick which ended up turning into Kyrie. They know what to do during a rebuild, use your capspace to take on players and contracts while adding more and more draft picks.

Meanwhile BC relies on FA to try and rebuild the team.

Getting a number one draft pick by taking on Davis' contract was pure luck. Imagine what the media and fans would be saying if the pick turns out to be a dud.

[chuckerz]

The grizzlies should have at least asked for a second round pick. That way they can just pick a European player and stash him overseas for a few years until he's ready to come over. Jon leuer can be a spot up three point shooting big like Matt Bonner. It'll give room for Gasol or Randolph to work downlow while Leuer spreads the floor.

[Chaos Engine]

Cleveland did something similar a few years back when they took on Davis' horrible contract but got a first round pick which ended up turning into Kyrie. They know what to do during a rebuild, use your capspace to take on players and contracts while adding more and more draft picks.

Meanwhile BC relies on FA to try and rebuild the team.

Getting a number one draft pick by taking on Davis' contract was pure luck. Imagine what the media and fans would be saying if the pick turns out to be a dud.

Not pure luck. They smartly increased their odds to get the #1 pick, and used the amnesty on Baron the next year.

[cdel00]

Holy ****!


Lauer sucks wtf.

2 decent prospects plus a pick similar to what we gave for Lowry.

You gotta be f'en with me.

[PBI]

This is what rebuilding looks like, friends.

[sisibilio]

Wayne Ellington as mentioned above, is also included in this deal. I dont like this trade for MEM at all. They give up a lot just to buy some time before they must trade one of gay/zbo. Hopefully this is the first domino to fall and gets gm's to start making deals!

@MySportsLegion
Cavaliers are getting a FIRST round pick in deal with Memphis.

If they make it to the finals (not saying that it's very likely) it would be time well bought. Although the conditions of the pick traded are really steep.

[sisibilio]

The grizzlies should have at least asked for a second round pick.

The Grizzlies should have tried to force it a bit and probably Cle settled for the 2015 pick top 5 protected.
IDK why they were in such a hurry. Maybe feared Cavs used their capspace in other trade, or someone picked West before they could.

[Dr Positivity]

After next year...

Noel
TT/Speight
Wiggins or Parker
Waiter
Irving

beautiful.

Considering they play Moneyball with their draft picks I highly doubt that line up happens and it's a shadow of what could have been:

Irving
Shabazz or McLemore (this year)
Parker, Wiggins or Randle (next year)
Valanciunas
Drummond

Would have easily had the potential to be the best formed young team from a draft (yes over OKC and POR imo).

If the Cavs went "chalk", they would've taken Valanciunas and then 'consensus BPA' Thomas Robinson 2012 - Drummond wasn't projected over MKG, Beal or TRob by anyone. I remember people criticizing the Cavs for not going with the sure to be elite Robinson/Valanciunas frontcourt...

[Parataxis]

WOW the Cavs are doing this rebuild the right way, the Raps should take note. The only thing holding them back were their questionable draft selection, though both picks from the last 2 years have begun to turn things around.

Don't need to only look at Cleveland. There's plenty of examples over the years. Our GM just has ADD and can't stick with one vision and in those moments is never really comitted to it either.

It's mindboggling that Cleveland's managed to do this twice in three years.

Oh, it's because they retain cap space. Carry on.

I wonder if they'll reach terribly with this pick as well. Seems to be the Cleveland way.

[Ackshun]

Can't really wrap my head around the 1st round pick portion.

I like Ellington, although he's a bit undersized. Selby was redundant with Wroten nailed to the bench.

[Felixano]

Wrote an article about my opinion on this trade, check it out if you get a chance

http://gamedayglory.blogspot.ca/2013/01 ... ngton.html

[YogiStewart]

This is what rebuilding looks like, friends.

the Cavs should know. they've been doing it for...what, now...3+ years? and look at the standings!

[team edward]

This is what rebuilding looks like, friends.

the Cavs should know. they've been doing it for...what, now...3+ years? and look at the standings!

Exactly. Rebuilding means staying terrible for as long as possible. But while you stay terrible, you are curling up like a cobra, and then one season your picks have all become all-stars and you land a big free-agent and you STRIKE! That's how it works every time.

[Viatical]

Evaluating this trade on the players' merits misses the point. It's a salary dump that gives Memphis the option of retaining their core while keeping the repeater taxpayer penalties out of the equation. None of the players involved in the trade are consequential or important to either team. Not even whomever the pick turns into, in an historically bad draft. Well done Memphis. *claps*

[sisibilio]

This is what rebuilding looks like, friends.

the Cavs should know. they've been doing it for...what, now...3+ years? and look at the standings!

Exactly. Rebuilding means staying terrible for as long as possible. But while you stay terrible, you are curling up like a cobra, and then one season your picks have all become all-stars and you land a big free-agent and you STRIKE! That's how it works every time.

That's how it works or, much more frequently, doesn't work.
Other than OKC, the Cavs of the LeBron era and maybe Orlando with Dwight, what other elite team since 1999 have been built though a "proper" rebuild?