ESPN Insider: Top 25 Players Under Age 25 (Ed Davis 24th)

[Kevin Willis]

OKC had a monopoly on under 25 talent and that's not including the potential of PJIII and Lamb. That may be the true dynasty.

[pkiskool]

Where's DD?

[pkiskool]

Aw no DeRozan?

Shocking. Bryan gave a slightly better Anthony Morrow a 40m contract

Morrow can shoot 3's.
DD can't.

[advaita]

lol at ibaka before curry

[Chaos Engine]

John Wall not on the list is crazy. DD not on the list is completely justified. They are right about Ed's feel for the game. You can see he just knows where to be and when to be there. Demar has a terrible feel for the game, which is becoming more and more apparent.

[kmatrixg]

Eric Bledsoe is way too low on this list. Mark my words, he'll be an all-star within 4 years. The kid is phenomenal.

[arbsn]

Ed Davis is seriously overrated on this list.

He is a talented player but lets get real - he is not better than:
Eric Bledsoe
John Wall
Eric Gordon
Andre Drummond
Michael Kidd Gilchrist
Jonas Valanciunas
Kawhi Leonard
Ricky Rubio
etc...

The list is missing tons of marquee players under 25

Anyways, the real reason Ed Davis is not that good is his lack of 1 on 1 defense (he is a decent help defender). He's a terrible post defender. Ironically, this is the only type of D Andrea Bargnani is good at. It's pretty hilarious that him and Andrea Bargnani are exactly opposite in so many ways (rebounding, shooting, athleticism, defense) they seem like polar opposites.

[Pchu]

Davis still has room to improve. He needs to learn how to use his off-hand, goes left every time. Needs to get stronger still, his post defense (as per Pelton) is pretty horrendous.

[dTox]

Ed Davis is seriously overrated on this list.

He is a talented player but lets get real - he is not better than:
Eric Bledsoe
John Wall
Eric Gordon
Andre Drummond
Michael Kidd Gilchrist
Jonas Valanciunas
Kawhi Leonard
Ricky Rubio
etc...

The list is missing tons of marquee players under 25

Anyways, the real reason Ed Davis is not that good is his lack of 1 on 1 defense (he is a decent help defender). He's a terrible post defender. Ironically, this is the only type of D Andrea Bargnani is good at. It's pretty hilarious that him and Andrea Bargnani are exactly opposite in so many ways (rebounding, shooting, athleticism, defense) they seem like polar opposites.

The said players have higher potential, but right now Ed is the better player (except for Gordon and Wall)

[COY0607]

Interesting that Derozan isn't on the list. Not to put so much important on some stupid list, but kind of shows you his value may not be all that high.

Not only is his value not high, but in all likelihood, it's shockingly low. Like one of the 5 least moveable/worst contracts in the league, low. I bet when the T&T board does the "worst contracts" ranking that they always do after the most valuable assets that they are in the middle of now, Derozan makes the top 5 or 6. A 4 year, 9.5 mil/season deal for a < 14 PER player after this season, is an absolute atrocity of a contract, probably worse than Jeff Green's deal, they are similar caliber players but Derozan's contract runs a year longer. I plan on voting Demar 3rd after Amare and Tyrus Thomas

I think that's pushing it, just to think of a few names that are on worse contracts:

-Gerald Wallace
-Kris Humphries
-Bargnani
-Charlie V
-Ben Gordon
-Okafor
-Perkins
-Hedo
..
..

but yet Demar is in a bad contract in my opinion, just not so bad that he's immovable. But the longer we wait, the shorter his "potential" window closes and his contract becomes that much worse, I think this summer will be the best time to get rid of him otherwise he'll fall in line with the names mentioned above

charlie v, ben gordon, okafor, hedo all expire after next season... they'll be expirings this offseason... you realize derozan has 4 years left after this year right, which makes his contract situation significantly worse.. and humpries is not a bad contract, hes a double double machine when he plays minutes and is coming off a 14/11 season

[kmatrixg]

Not only is his value not high, but in all likelihood, it's shockingly low. Like one of the 5 least moveable/worst contracts in the league, low. I bet when the T&T board does the "worst contracts" ranking that they always do after the most valuable assets that they are in the middle of now, Derozan makes the top 5 or 6. A 4 year, 9.5 mil/season deal for a < 14 PER player after this season, is an absolute atrocity of a contract, probably worse than Jeff Green's deal, they are similar caliber players but Derozan's contract runs a year longer. I plan on voting Demar 3rd after Amare and Tyrus Thomas

I think that's pushing it, just to think of a few names that are on worse contracts:

-Gerald Wallace
-Kris Humphries
-Bargnani
-Charlie V
-Ben Gordon
-Okafor
-Perkins
-Hedo
..
..

but yet Demar is in a bad contract in my opinion, just not so bad that he's immovable. But the longer we wait, the shorter his "potential" window closes and his contract becomes that much worse, I think this summer will be the best time to get rid of him otherwise he'll fall in line with the names mentioned above

charlie v, ben gordon, okafor, hedo all expire after next season... they'll be expirings this offseason... you realize derozan has 4 years left after this year right, which makes his contract situation significantly worse.. and humpries is not a bad contract, hes a double double machine when he plays minutes and is coming off a 14/11 season

I think he was more referring to the life of the contract

[MadMax10]

George is top ten .

[Prodigy416]

Where's DD?

Watching film

[kmatrixg]

Take this list with a huge grain of salt. Last years list included guys such as:

11. Ty Lawson
12. DeJuan Blair
15. Danilo Gallinari
19. JaVale McGee

Some of their comparisons are jokes too (although I generally enjoy David Thorpe), comparing Nic Batum to Bruce Bowen, Brandon Jennings to Allen Iverson and Ricky Rubio to Pistol Pete Maravich.

[Homer Jay]

Interesting that Derozan isn't on the list. Not to put so much important on some stupid list, but kind of shows you his value may not be all that high.

Not only is his value not high, but in all likelihood, it's shockingly low. Like one of the 5 least moveable/worst contracts in the league, low. I bet when the T&T board does the "worst contracts" ranking that they always do after the most valuable assets that they are in the middle of now, Derozan makes the top 5 or 6. A 4 year, 9.5 mil/season deal for a < 14 PER player after this season, is an absolute atrocity of a contract, probably worse than Jeff Green's deal, they are similar caliber players but Derozan's contract runs a year longer. I plan on voting Demar 3rd after Amare and Tyrus Thomas

Check out Perkins, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay. They qualify as worse than Demar by a long shot.

Perkins makes 9 mil a year while putting up an 8.1 PER
JJ makes an average 22.5 mil a year for while putting up an 14.8 PER
Rudy gay makes an average 18.5 mil a year to put up a 14.6 PER