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So after Leiweke leaves..... We're screwed?
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Kelly has been TL's mouthpiece since Leiweke came here.
these are Tim's words. Ouch.
these are Tim's words. Ouch.
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Flight33 wrote:So after Leiweke leaves..... We're screwed?
No but it's concerning that there seems to be no one available who has the connections he has in the NHL,NBA and MLS.
Plus all the things Tim got done in his limited time here and the fact that MLSE turned down drake for years before Tim brought him in, it's scary to think what we might miss out on with Tim leaving.
But Tim put a lot of good people in place and took care of a lot of major projects in the immediate future so we should be alright up until the Raptors all-star game in 2016 and the Leafs centennial in 2017...after that who knows.
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Great article and it's really true to the bone. Leiweke is the only reason I was 100% convinced that some MLSE franchise was going to win a championship, guaranteed, within the next 10 years. He's a guy that knows how to work with his surroundings, how to get the best out of the situation he's in. I'm really sorry that he's going to go but it's a total Leiweke move ( in a good way), he's just a dude that's driven & isn't afraid of pursuing his personal goals.
Now if there's anything about Leiweke leaving that's related to how MLSE was treating him, we should go to war for this guy. Tim Leiweke is as much of a blessing as having a Greg Popovic. You don't insult that kind of hard work & ambition & scare it away. I'd be more willing than ever to boycot the Raptors if Leiweke leaving is due to MLSE's squanderings.
Now if there's anything about Leiweke leaving that's related to how MLSE was treating him, we should go to war for this guy. Tim Leiweke is as much of a blessing as having a Greg Popovic. You don't insult that kind of hard work & ambition & scare it away. I'd be more willing than ever to boycot the Raptors if Leiweke leaving is due to MLSE's squanderings.
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AbC? wrote:Throwback24 wrote:
We will never accomplish anything, and in all likelihood, at some point will probably pummel down towards the cellar dwellars once again once MLSE manages to push Ujiri out as well.
These ass **** man.
Rogers and Bell are Toby from The Office. Just no Please end the pain Adam Silver.
Yes. The fact that they're pushing out a guy like TL just shows how ass backwards the organization is.
As Ass backwards as our telecom industry is. It's one things Rogers and bell know how to do well.
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overdose wrote:Flight33 wrote:So after Leiweke leaves..... We're screwed?
No but it's concerning that there seems to be no one available who has the connections he has in the NHL,NBA and MLS.
Plus all the things Tim got done in his limited time here and the fact that MLSE turned down drake for years before Tim brought him in, it's scary to think what we might miss out on with Tim leaving.
But Tim put a lot of good people in place and took care of a lot of major projects in the immediate future so we should be alright up until the Raptors all-star game in 2016 and the Leafs centennial in 2017...after that who knows.
Not too sure about that...the All Star Game was supposed to be our coming out party to the league. With Tim's connections within entertainment--the 2016 All Star Game would have been one to remember(by bringing in amazing talent, celebs) and send a strong message out to the league. He was in charge of all this and I believe this would of been part of the wooing process for KD.
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rapsrealm wrote:overdose wrote:Flight33 wrote:So after Leiweke leaves..... We're screwed?
No but it's concerning that there seems to be no one available who has the connections he has in the NHL,NBA and MLS.
Plus all the things Tim got done in his limited time here and the fact that MLSE turned down drake for years before Tim brought him in, it's scary to think what we might miss out on with Tim leaving.
But Tim put a lot of good people in place and took care of a lot of major projects in the immediate future so we should be alright up until the Raptors all-star game in 2016 and the Leafs centennial in 2017...after that who knows.
Not too sure about that...the All Star Game was supposed to be our coming out party to the league. With Tim's connections within entertainment--the 2016 All Star Game would have been one to remember(by bringing in amazing talent, celebs) and send a strong message out to the league. He was in charge of all this and I believe this would of been part of the wooing process for KD.
Very true, it hurts how much that could be a missed opportunity.
You never know it could still be everything you mentioned( and more) but without TL I also am much less confident that it will be.
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J-Roc wrote:Media continues with the anti MLSE rhetoric. Why not just call the guy out for wanting to get out of the cold? Everything laid out suggests TL would want to stay. EVEN with all the supposed trouble of dealing with MLSE, so much was accomplished. Therefore it wasn't that difficult. He's leaving because his family doesn't want to be here.
As for Drake, he could go off the rails without a respected TL to keep him in line. With no one at MLSE to deal with that kind of ego, Drake will be tempted to make his own calls.
Seriously?
Have you not been paying attention for the better part of the last decade?
Because he accomplished more in the past year, than anyone has done in years, it must be easy? Wow, how simplistic a view is that.
Did it occur to you that maybe he could have accomplished triple the amount of deliverables if the organization had solid structure and a cohesive vision, opposed to a split boardroom with completely different values and needs.
You create a brand new "Work from Your Los Angelas Home" policy to keep a talent like TL in place. We need him much much more than he needs MLSE.
And Drake is not a dummy, he far from being a loose canon that we have to worry about.
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HeartBreaking wrote:tim should divorce his wife and stay
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MrBojangelz71 wrote:J-Roc wrote:Media continues with the anti MLSE rhetoric. Why not just call the guy out for wanting to get out of the cold? Everything laid out suggests TL would want to stay. EVEN with all the supposed trouble of dealing with MLSE, so much was accomplished. Therefore it wasn't that difficult. He's leaving because his family doesn't want to be here.
As for Drake, he could go off the rails without a respected TL to keep him in line. With no one at MLSE to deal with that kind of ego, Drake will be tempted to make his own calls.
Seriously?
Have you not been paying attention for the better part of the last decade?
Because he accomplished more in the past year, than anyone has done in years, it must be easy? Wow, how simplistic a view is that.
Did it occur to you that maybe he could have accomplished triple the amount of deliverables if the organization had solid structure and a cohesive vision, opposed to a split boardroom with completely different values and needs.
You create a brand new "Work from Your Los Angelas Home" policy to keep a talent like TL in place. We need him much much more than he needs MLSE.
And Drake is not a dummy, he far from being a loose canon that we have to worry about.
It was easy for Tim Lieweke.
And when Drake wants to start turning every Friday home game into an OVO concert series, no one at MLSE will know how to hold him back. They'll just sever ties and make Lou Williams their music star.
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Tim Lieweke should buy the Raptors.
"He looked like Batman coming out of nowhere"
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TL is the new Chuck Norris
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Naija Boy wrote:This is worse than when Vince left.
I 100% mean that.
Actually it's basically the same thing. TL will soon get the Damon/T-Mac/Vince/Bosh treatment so that the fanbase can point at this tangible thing to hate (THIS GUY!!) while it's the mechanisms behind the scenes whether it be the Teachers or MLSE that meddle and screw this franchise and it's players since it's inception.
I think many of us were finally relieved to have a adept Management group behind the Raptors - but even then it seems the machine driving this organization is too large & beastly and will destroy all in it's path even if it starts to eat it's own tail.
As someone who has followed this team from "before" Day 1 this new excitement with the recent playoffs, Lowry signing, Demar USA performance, good nucleus, good GM, etc - all this sunshine now has a darkcloud again. The Raptors 1st year, The Vince era and this recent TL era all seemed to be the most exciting of this franchise but as it always seems the sunny days don't last very long around here...
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Here's the good news: If they hired Tim, that means MLSE might be tired of messing up too. Hopefully they find another guy of that calibre, or better yet, I hope Tim Leiweike can suggest his own replacement before he leaves and make something happen.
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TL is the KD OF CEOS. You cant replace that. He is top 3 for sure.
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This is terrible, they will bring in a hockey guy and Basketball will be a afterthought.
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Just when I thought this was the most positive summer for us Raptors fans in years, something like this happens. Mr. Kelly is right. We don't get Masai without Tim. We don't get Drake without Tim. We don't get the All-Star game without Tim. We don't keep Lowry without Tim/Masai/Drake building up the rep of the team all year long. We won't recruit any future free agents without those guys either. This is terrible. All it'll take is one screw-up by the new MLSE guy to drive Drake away. And what's keeping Masai here once his contract expires and MLSE cheaps out when offering him a new deal? Sigh. If you think I'm depressed or being pessimistic, talk to a TFC fan lol. They're crushed right now. Tim was basically the only suit who has ever given a crap about their team during its existence.
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J-Roc wrote:MrBojangelz71 wrote:J-Roc wrote:Media continues with the anti MLSE rhetoric. Why not just call the guy out for wanting to get out of the cold? Everything laid out suggests TL would want to stay. EVEN with all the supposed trouble of dealing with MLSE, so much was accomplished. Therefore it wasn't that difficult. He's leaving because his family doesn't want to be here.
As for Drake, he could go off the rails without a respected TL to keep him in line. With no one at MLSE to deal with that kind of ego, Drake will be tempted to make his own calls.
Seriously?
Have you not been paying attention for the better part of the last decade?
Because he accomplished more in the past year, than anyone has done in years, it must be easy? Wow, how simplistic a view is that.
Did it occur to you that maybe he could have accomplished triple the amount of deliverables if the organization had solid structure and a cohesive vision, opposed to a split boardroom with completely different values and needs.
You create a brand new "Work from Your Los Angelas Home" policy to keep a talent like TL in place. We need him much much more than he needs MLSE.
And Drake is not a dummy, he far from being a loose canon that we have to worry about.
It was easy for Tim Lieweke.
And when Drake wants to start turning every Friday home game into an OVO concert series, no one at MLSE will know how to hold him back. They'll just sever ties and make Lou Williams their music star.
Idk why you think Drake is going to start commanding more authority now that TL is gone.
Turning every friday home game to an ovo concert would be sold out instantly btw.
Yeezy SZN approaching
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Why has MLSE actively chosen to undo this partnership after all that has happened for good since last year's season?
This is horrible.
This is horrible.
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So depressing to think all that progress on all fronts will be gone in a year smh