Jonas stats when playing 30+minutes

[youngtea]

I randomly went to the NBA website and I realized looking at JV's stats that when he is utilized 30 minutes a game his production and shot attempts increase tremendously. I know this topic has been beaten to death already. Does anyone have anymore information on JV's production compared to below and over 30 minutes of game time.

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/gamelogs/

EDIT: Last season - total of 6 games 30 + mpg compared to season of 2 games
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/gamelogs/?CF=MIN*GE*30&Season=2013-14

[dTox]

What came first the chicken or the production that led to his 30+ min?

[G-UNIT]

What abt this? Raptors stats when he plays his current minutes. 13-2

[JN]

He gets more minutes when he is playing better. So of course his stats will tend to be better in those games.

[youngtea]

He gets more minutes when he is playing better. So of course his stats will tend to be better in those games.

Not essentially the case on the offensive side. There are games he went 4/5 or 6/7 and only got 21-25 minutes.

[vini_vidi_vici]

What abt this? Raptors stats when he plays his current minutes. 13-2

12-2, he didnt play in BOS hah.

[pbj]

Like the others said, not a really good indicator since he gets more minutes when he plays well, so naturally his numbers would be better.. but you can filter it on NBA - there's only been 2 games so far:
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/g ... =MIN*GE*30

[G-UNIT]

What abt this? Raptors stats when he plays his current minutes. 13-2

12-2, he didnt play in BOS hah.

lol

[Duffman100]

Not totally on topic, but one strategy I'd like to see if that when we get up by 10-15, hitting JV for like 2-4 straight post-ups.

Slow the game down, limit their chance of running their way back into the game, we get high efficiency shots.

Granted, he's got to get better at passing out of the post, but I think the benefits outweigh negatives.

[TDotsfinest97]

Not totally on topic, but one strategy I'd like to see if that when we get up by 10-15, hitting JV for like 2-4 straight post-ups.

Slow the game down, limit their chance of running their way back into the game, we get high efficiency shots.

Granted, he's got to get better at passing out of the post, but I think the benefits outweigh negatives.

This is what Casey should've done vs Phoenix instead of letting DD brick long 2's so the Suns could get easy rebounds and run the floor like crazy and make 3's after 3's but no if the team we are against plays small god forbid we can't play JV at the same time to slow the tone of the game down and actually control the game.

[OvertimeNO]

Not totally on topic, but one strategy I'd like to see if that when we get up by 10-15, hitting JV for like 2-4 straight post-ups.

Slow the game down, limit their chance of running their way back into the game, we get high efficiency shots.

Granted, he's got to get better at passing out of the post, but I think the benefits outweigh negatives.

This is what Casey should've done vs Phoenix instead of letting DD brick long 2's so the Suns could get easy rebounds and run the floor like crazy and make 3's after 3's but no if the team we are against plays small god forbid we can't play JV at the same time to slow the tone of the game down and actually control the game.

Except that pace wasn't the problem because the Suns were getting their threes in half court sets too.

[TDotsfinest97]

Not totally on topic, but one strategy I'd like to see if that when we get up by 10-15, hitting JV for like 2-4 straight post-ups.

Slow the game down, limit their chance of running their way back into the game, we get high efficiency shots.

Granted, he's got to get better at passing out of the post, but I think the benefits outweigh negatives.

This is what Casey should've done vs Phoenix instead of letting DD brick long 2's so the Suns could get easy rebounds and run the floor like crazy and make 3's after 3's but no if the team we are against plays small god forbid we can't play JV at the same time to slow the tone of the game down and actually control the game.

Except that pace wasn't the problem because the Suns were getting their threes in half court sets too.

They had the momentum after that weird Isaiah three in transition, I do agree that JV wouldn't have changed the defense that much but he could've slowed that game down, the Raptors played the Suns game instead and almost lost.

I'm stll happy after that 13-2 start though

[youngtea]

Like the others said, not a really good indicator since he gets more minutes when he plays well, so naturally his numbers would be better.. but you can filter it on NBA - there's only been 2 games so far:
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/g ... =MIN*GE*30

Any way to find stats from last year to analyze.

[vini_vidi_vici]

Like the others said, not a really good indicator since he gets more minutes when he plays well, so naturally his numbers would be better.. but you can filter it on NBA - there's only been 2 games so far:
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/g ... =MIN*GE*30

Any way to find stats from last year to analyze.

Click PBJs link, you see that dial on the far right, it has your filters/etc..

[youngtea]

Like the others said, not a really good indicator since he gets more minutes when he plays well, so naturally his numbers would be better.. but you can filter it on NBA - there's only been 2 games so far:
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/g ... =MIN*GE*30

Any way to find stats from last year to analyze.

Click PBJs link, you see that dial on the far right, it has your filters/etc..

For those interested JV played 6 games over 30 minutes at the same time last season. This season he has only played 2 times over 30 minutes.

Link: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/gamelogs/?CF=MIN*GE*30&Season=2013-14

[vini_vidi_vici]

Any way to find stats from last year to analyze.

Click PBJs link, you see that dial on the far right, it has your filters/etc..

For those interested JV played 6 games over 30 minutes at the same time last season. This season he has only played 2 times over 30 minutes.

Link: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202685/gamelogs/?CF=MIN*GE*30&Season=2013-14

Much different personnel though. No CH/PP/JJ/Stiemsma/Bebe/etc..

[Traps13]

What abt this? Raptors stats when he plays his current minutes. 13-2

12-2, he didnt play in BOS hah.

lol

Ha owned

[CoachJReturns]

Not totally on topic, but one strategy I'd like to see if that when we get up by 10-15, hitting JV for like 2-4 straight post-ups.

Slow the game down, limit their chance of running their way back into the game, we get high efficiency shots.

Granted, he's got to get better at passing out of the post, but I think the benefits outweigh negatives.

This is what Casey should've done vs Phoenix instead of letting DD brick long 2's so the Suns could get easy rebounds and run the floor like crazy and make 3's after 3's but no if the team we are against plays small god forbid we can't play JV at the same time to slow the tone of the game down and actually control the game.

Well said. I think it's hard to argue with a 13-2 record, but if the offense is not taking good shots, getting it to JV down low at least eliminates the possibility of long rebounds and very easy fast breaks.

[maxpower88]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=valanjo01&match=game&year_min=2014&year_max=2015&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_G=&pos_is_GF=&pos_is_F=&pos_is_FG=&pos_is_FC=&pos_is_C=&pos_is_CF=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

His numbers over the last 2 seasons when playing at least 30 minutes.

GP: 42
MPG: 33.7
PPG: 15.0
FG%: 5.8 - 10.3 (0.561)
RPG: 10.7
BPG: 1.1

So he's basically 15/10 with good shooting. Right now his development is right where it needs to be, he's still only 22. He has plenty of room for improvement and all the time in the world to do it. Casey is handling Jonas fine, the team is 13-2 and Jonas is playing fine, right now there is no need to change things. Jonas needs to improve on his rim protection and his post game, he has very few post moves. His mid-range game is improving but is still not to the point where defenders will bite on his pump fake.

[VinBaker6]

JV doesn't have the conditioning to play 30+ minutes at a high level.