Lou refuses to stay in haunted hotels

[Latrell]

I was starting to think I was the only skeptic here.

After spending my childhood traumatized by the cinematic classic "Ghostbusters 2" and inspecting paintings to see if the eyes were moving, I am now an adult man who does not believe in ghosts.

But I find it quaintly charming that some of you guys do!

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Honestly man, I think thats an arrogant attitude to have. Whether or not there are ghosts or UFO's or whatever I think we should all agree that there IS unexplainable phenomena out there. There have literally been millions of people who have witnessed all sorts of it.
Don't just dismiss it because you haven't experienced something like that. I just find it so arrogant when people are so quick to write off anything that can't be explained by our current (still primitive) science.

I love this post. I am not religious by any means or really spiritual but i am very logically minded and logically minded people do not dismiss things they cannot explain. There have been way too many instances of unexplainable phenomena and to say that every single one of them was a fabrication is arrogant. People lie..but as you increase the amount of people the probability that all of them are lying tends to decrease. There are Near Death Experiences, UFO's, ghosts, premonitions, all sorts of things that most "scientific minds" dismiss. In an a finite obserable universe and infinite universe the probability of there being no other life forms is almost non existant. People really wana convince me we are the only ones out there where there are infinite other planets such as ours? In the same way you can rationalize all other events, you don't dismiss the words of billions of people throughout our history.

It's this weird thing in our society. Its basically spiritualism vs science,you're either one or the other..can't be both. When really they should go hand in hand.

""Science without spirituality is lame and spirituality without science is blind"
-Albert Einstein

[J Dilla]

i thought it was "science without religion, religion without science". i believe in ghosts more than i believe on the authenticity of albert einstein quotes on the internet.

religion caters to your soul. science caters to the material world around you. and to your fundamentalist scientist, the soul doesn't exist.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

[dekobedeharden]

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Honestly man, I think thats an arrogant attitude to have. Whether or not there are ghosts or UFO's or whatever I think we should all agree that there IS unexplainable phenomena out there. There have literally been millions of people who have witnessed all sorts of it.
Don't just dismiss it because you haven't experienced something like that. I just find it so arrogant when people are so quick to write off anything that can't be explained by our current (still primitive) science.

I love this post. I am not religious by any means or really spiritual but i am very logically minded and logically minded people do not dismiss things they cannot explain. There have been way too many instances of unexplainable phenomena and to say that every single one of them was a fabrication is arrogant. People lie..but as you increase the amount of people the probability that all of them are lying tends to decrease. There are Near Death Experiences, UFO's, ghosts, premonitions, all sorts of things that most "scientific minds" dismiss. In an a finite obserable universe and infinite universe the probability of there being no other life forms is almost non existant. People really wana convince me we are the only ones out there where there are infinite other planets such as ours? In the same way you can rationalize all other events, you don't dismiss the words of billions of people throughout our history.

It's this weird thing in our society. Its basically spiritualism vs science,you're either one or the other..can't be both. When really they should go hand in hand.

""Science without spirituality is lame and spirituality without science is blind"
-Albert Einstein

i feel life is all about the balance..you gotta be open to things and you have to not be an extremist thinker in any certain topic..you can be a specialist in one sure but you can't be shoving it down everyone's throat.

[Kibago]

It doesn't really matter if it's real (and the Skirvin is famous for haunting stories, so if nothing else lots of people are convinced it is.) If he's scared to stay there, he's not going to sleep properly, and NBA players need sleep to play optimally.

[ballercb4]

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Honestly man, I think thats an arrogant attitude to have. Whether or not there are ghosts or UFO's or whatever I think we should all agree that there IS unexplainable phenomena out there. There have literally been millions of people who have witnessed all sorts of it.
Don't just dismiss it because you haven't experienced something like that. I just find it so arrogant when people are so quick to write off anything that can't be explained by our current (still primitive) science.

I love this post. I am not religious by any means or really spiritual but i am very logically minded and logically minded people do not dismiss things they cannot explain. There have been way too many instances of unexplainable phenomena and to say that every single one of them was a fabrication is arrogant. People lie..but as you increase the amount of people the probability that all of them are lying tends to decrease. There are Near Death Experiences, UFO's, ghosts, premonitions, all sorts of things that most "scientific minds" dismiss. In an a finite obserable universe and infinite universe the probability of there being no other life forms is almost non existant. People really wana convince me we are the only ones out there where there are infinite other planets such as ours? In the same way you can rationalize all other events, you don't dismiss the words of billions of people throughout our history.

It's this weird thing in our society. Its basically spiritualism vs science,you're either one or the other..can't be both. When really they should go hand in hand.

""Science without spirituality is lame and spirituality without science is blind"
-Albert Einstein

Look into vedic culture it's scientific you just have to get passed the poetic speech. There is mention of earth's age (which is pretty accurate), of atoms, time lines which span millions and billions of years. Heck,there are even words for numbers that are are so large they don't exist in the English language yet. Its speaks of the origin of universe which is similar to the concept of the big bang theory. The issue is vedic knowledge was passed down orally hence the poetic speech making it easier to memorize. It's is basically coded text where words translated from Sanskrit to English are difficult because English words don't exist to explain the concepts. Einstein knew spirituality and science are akin they both support the TRUTH (ex. what is right). He even gave credit to vedic culture. The west often ignores the teachings of the East because it doesn't fit into their belief system. Science in itself is very biased ex. look at new research and you only get funding if you find something "new". If your looking for a cause and effect you will find one because your goal is not the truth but is to find a cause and effect even if it's not true.

[Laurier]

Ghosts, eh? lmfao

[dTox]

via Imgflip Meme Maker

[Vietbrah]

Other NBA encounters with that hotel

The Knicks were afraid, very afraid. And it had nothing to do with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

For two days, several players had trouble sleeping because they were convinced that their downtown hotel is haunted.

"I definitely believe it," Jared Jeffries said. "The place is haunted. It's scary."

Eddy Curry claims he slept for only two hours Sunday night because he couldn't stop thinking about ghosts roaming the hotel.

For years, guests staying at the Skirvin Hilton have reported ghost sightings and strange noises. Legend has it that sometime in the 1930s, a woman jumped to her death while holding her baby in her hands.

"They said it happened on the 10th floor and I'm the only one staying on the 10th floor," Curry said. "That's why I spent most of my time in (Nate Robinson's) room. I definitely believe there are ghosts in that hotel."

Assistant coach Herb Williams teased Jeffries and Curry for believing that the Skirvin is haunted, but Curry wasn't laughing.

"There are too many stories," Curry said. "Something is going on there."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... z1tM1sptAF

Bill Simmons:

“I woke up at 4:30 with my heart pounding. Suddenly, it dawned on me that I wasn’t alone. I had an overpowering sensation that someone else was in the room. I decided to turn on the light. Stretching to my right for the switch, out of nowhere, I heard the sound of a baby crying urgently to my far left (right near the window). The urgency freaked me out just as much as the crying itself. I fumbled for the switch, couldn’t find it, fumbled, fumbled some more, then finally turned the light on. The crying sound stopped.

I kept the lights on. And the television. And that’s how I spent the next three and a half hours — half-asleep, half-awake and totally spooked. The words ‘Man Up’ did not enter the equation.

I came to Oklahoma City for Durant and Westbrook and left telling stories about Effie’s baby. Just know that the next time someone tells me a ghost story, I will believe them.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nfl

[NinjaBro]

Jeff Ayres and Tim Duncan in the same hotel

Jeff Ayres:

You get in at whatever time. I took my room key. I could hear stuff in the hallway, like people in their rooms. So I'm thinking people are watching TV or whatever. So I get to my door, and my key doesn't work, but it sounds like there's somebody in my room. Like I hear a little baby, not crying but making noise. I'm like, "What the heck?" I keep trying my key and it doesn't work. So I go downstairs to get a new key, and I tell them (somebody's in the room).

So they call the room, and nobody answers. They're like, "We can get you a new key and send you up with security and make sure nobody's there, because there shouldn't be anybody in there." Then they're like, "We'll just get you a new room." It was the creepiest thing. I heard a couple of other guys heard babies in the hallway, kids running down the hallway. Creepy. I really heard voices and a baby in the room, and there wasn't anybody in there. It was crazy.

Tim Duncan:

I heard a baby in his room. There was somebody or something in his room, yeah. I definitely heard something. It wasn't creepy, because I assumed it was really somebody in the room, and they gave him the wrong room. But when they told me the story the next day about calling up there and no one in the room, it's at that point you get chills. I totally agreed with him. There was a baby there, absolutely.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2005 ... nted-hotel

[Boogie!]

I love this post. I am not religious by any means or really spiritual but i am very logically minded and logically minded people do not dismiss things they cannot explain. There have been way too many instances of unexplainable phenomena and to say that every single one of them was a fabrication is arrogant. People lie..but as you increase the amount of people the probability that all of them are lying tends to decrease. There are Near Death Experiences, UFO's, ghosts, premonitions, all sorts of things that most "scientific minds" dismiss. In an a finite obserable universe and infinite universe the probability of there being no other life forms is almost non existant. People really wana convince me we are the only ones out there where there are infinite other planets such as ours? In the same way you can rationalize all other events, you don't dismiss the words of billions of people throughout our history.

It's this weird thing in our society. Its basically spiritualism vs science,you're either one or the other..can't be both. When really they should go hand in hand.

""Science without spirituality is lame and spirituality without science is blind"
-Albert Einstein

Look into vedic culture it's scientific you just have to get passed the poetic speech. There is mention of earth's age (which is pretty accurate), of atoms, time lines which span millions and billions of years. Heck,there are even words for numbers that are are so large they don't exist in the English language yet. Its speaks of the origin of universe which is similar to the concept of the big bang theory. The issue is vedic knowledge was passed down orally hence the poetic speech making it easier to memorize. It's is basically coded text where words translated from Sanskrit to English are difficult because English words don't exist to explain the concepts. Einstein knew spirituality and science are akin they both support the TRUTH (ex. what is right). He even gave credit to vedic culture. The west often ignores the teachings of the East because it doesn't fit into their belief system. Science in itself is very biased ex. look at new research and you only get funding if you find something "new". If your looking for a cause and effect you will find one because your goal is not the truth but is to find a cause and effect even if it's not true.

Not to be a dick, but I'm not quite sure what the point you're trying to make is.

[J Dilla]

why is it that it's always the hotels that are haunted? is it because they are a platform for evil activity?

[ontnut]

why is it that it's always the hotels that are haunted? is it because they are a platform for evil activity?

Lot of different people going in and (some) coming out. Also a place where a lot of semi-licit activities take place, so the likelihood of something bad happening, thus causing a lingering spirit of sorts, tends to happen more often there, than at your new house for example. I guess that's why prisons, insane asylums, hospitals are also highly haunted.

[ballercb4]

It's this weird thing in our society. Its basically spiritualism vs science,you're either one or the other..can't be both. When really they should go hand in hand.

""Science without spirituality is lame and spirituality without science is blind"
-Albert Einstein

Look into vedic culture it's scientific you just have to get passed the poetic speech. There is mention of earth's age (which is pretty accurate), of atoms, time lines which span millions and billions of years. Heck,there are even words for numbers that are are so large they don't exist in the English language yet. Its speaks of the origin of universe which is similar to the concept of the big bang theory. The issue is vedic knowledge was passed down orally hence the poetic speech making it easier to memorize. It's is basically coded text where words translated from Sanskrit to English are difficult because English words don't exist to explain the concepts. Einstein knew spirituality and science are akin they both support the TRUTH (ex. what is right). He even gave credit to vedic culture. The west often ignores the teachings of the East because it doesn't fit into their belief system. Science in itself is very biased ex. look at new research and you only get funding if you find something "new". If your looking for a cause and effect you will find one because your goal is not the truth but is to find a cause and effect even if it's not true.

Not to be a dick, but I'm not quite sure what the point you're trying to make is.

It cool I will try my best to explain...something along the lines that science and spirituality can coexist...many people believe they can't. History's best scientists were spiritual. Also, I draw a point to vedic culture and their ancient Gurus who were very spiritual and scientific at the same time (ex performing worlds first surgeries-> rhinoplasty today uses the same technique used in India thousands of years ago, using the knowledge of energy points in the body to help heal it/create the first known martial arts based on these points.)...Just because scientific research finds something "new" doesn't make it true: science is a collection of theories that are yet to be proven false (its our way or explaining the world we see). I allude to how scientific research is flawed today it doesn't search to find the "truth" but rather researches are pressured into getting funding. You only get funding for "new discoveries"; so researches either a) try create new findings out of minute details b) try to disprove existing research and prove some other minute point as "true". When your goal is money then you wont go after the "truth" or confirm the findings of others because there is no gain (money) in it.

When I mention the word "truth" do not take at face value rather it is a more complex term-> such as dharma, what is right, what is right in view point of the cosmos etc . Truth transcends the illusion of the world we live in. Enlightened beings such as Gurus and Buddha allude to this notion. That the world we live is an illusion (maya); we must break (destroy the ego of the mind) and change our perspectives in order to see our purpose and what universal truth is. In order to help and understand the world we must first help perfect and understand ourselves on the inside.

Its kind hard to explain my point on a forum; makes it even harder since this is a basketball forum and not a spiritual one.