How do we improve the PF position?

Wraps_fan · Post #101 » by **Wraps_fan** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:52 pm

Gotta try to snag Markieff at some point this season.

Post #102 » by **Alfred** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:59 pm

dTox wrote:
Alfred wrote:
Zeno wrote:Noel might be available for the Knicks pick because that's the kind of thing Philly seems to do. Maybe trade Knicks' pick plus Patterson for Noel and Stauskas. You'd lose the shooting at the 4 but replace it with another shooter on the wing.

Noel is one of their main pieces, and a guy who they have developed for a while now. I doubt they deal him for a pick, even if it ends up being a high one.

If you want to grab a guy from their team for a pick, I'd target Embiid, if you're confident that he can recover from his injuries.

I know this is a late response, but I would target Saric with our pick, he's essentially an afterthought behind Noel/Okafor and the pick is also exactly the sort of "would you like this free vacation ticket or whats inside this box" option Philly would go for.

Saric looks like a great prospect, which is why I don't know if they'd be willing to give him up. Also, Saric/Okafor/Noel as your 3 frontcourt players makes a TON more sense than Embiid/Okafor/Noel, in terms of skillset. Saric gives them another look offensively, and is more of a 3/4 stretch forward-type that they are missing currently.

dTox · Post #103 » by **dTox** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:10 pm

Alfred wrote:
dTox wrote:
Alfred wrote:Noel is one of their main pieces, and a guy who they have developed for a while now. I doubt they deal him for a pick, even if it ends up being a high one.

If you want to grab a guy from their team for a pick, I'd target Embiid, if you're confident that he can recover from his injuries.

I know this is a late response, but I would target Saric with our pick, he's essentially an afterthought behind Noel/Okafor and the pick is also exactly the sort of "would you like this free vacation ticket or whats inside this box" option Philly would go for.

Saric looks like a great prospect, which is why I don't know if they'd be willing to give him up. Also, Saric/Okafor/Noel as your 3 frontcourt players makes a TON more sense than Embiid/Okafor/Noel, in terms of skillset. Saric gives them another look offensively, and is more of a 3/4 stretch forward-type that they are missing currently.

Agree with everything you said, but I think if our pick ends up being in the top 7-8 range, where its heavy on good SF/wing prospects, which Philly sorely needs more than another scoring big, it might just be enough. Alternatively, if they pick a SF with one of their pick, and a PG like Murray is available, that could also be an enticing option with their lack of PG depth. Is it bad that the seasons only just begun and I'm already looking ahead at the draft?

Wraps_fan · Post #104 » by **Wraps_fan** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:19 pm

Isn't Saric basically just a Jonas Jerebko type of player? tweener forward that has a pretty good 3 point shot, can grab a few boards but can't do much else?

I haven't really watched him or anything thats just what I heard

Mr Gametime · Post #105 » by **Mr Gametime** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:43 pm

I hope we don't trade for Amir Johnson, Sullinger or David Lee could help us form Boston. I think it makes sense to deal a pick for a PF that can already produce instead of waiting for the draft and hope the player works out. It'd be great to get someone like Z-Bo if Memphis wants to rebuild.

Hero_Panda · Post #106 » by **Hero_Panda** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:45 pm

Alot of people are bringing up Portis, but having Bennett makes me forget that Portis was even an option at the draft, and being paid very little along with being a hometown kid doesn't hurt too. We may have rental in Scola for the time being, but the PF position is not as bleak as some are making it to be. It's just a glaring hole because all of our other roster spots are solidified.

Post #107 » by **Alfred** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:12 pm

Wraps_fan wrote:Isn't Saric basically just a Jonas Jerebko type of player? tweener forward that has a pretty good 3 point shot, can grab a few boards but can't do much else?

I haven't really watched him or anything thats just what I heard

He projects to be a much better scorer than Jerebko.

Jadoogar · Post #108 » by **Jadoogar** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:22 pm

why are so many people advocating STARTING bennett? He's not a good player, there's a reason we picked him up off waivers. Maybe he plays himself into a rotation player but becoming a starter, especially right now, makes no sense. I was so surprised he got 4th q minutes

UcanUwill · Post #109 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:31 pm

I am Saric fan, but i remain sceptical. His passing should translate fine, but his scoring and d? I am not sure. Guy lacks explosiveness and will be block magnet. Also, he is losing his main PF spot on his euro team, to Derrick Brown. Guy is not exactly a wonder child anymore

Post #110 » by **Alfred** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:37 pm

Jadoogar wrote:why are so many people advocating STARTING bennett? He's not a good player, there's a reason we picked him up off waivers. Maybe he plays himself into a rotation player but becoming a starter, especially right now, makes no sense. I was so surprised he got 4th q minutes

He got 4th quarter minutes because we were down 20-ish points.

DaddyCool19 · Post #111 » by **DaddyCool19** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:48 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I am Saric fan, but i remain sceptical. His passing should translate fine, but his scoring and d? I am not sure. Guy lacks explosiveness and will be block magnet. Also, he is losing his main PF spot on his euro team, to Derrick Brown. Guy is not exactly a wonder child anymore

Everyone in turkey knows he is leaving after this season. In Europe you don't develope an international guy(Furkan gets his minutes even though they now he could leave after this year because he is a Turk) who is going to leave after this season.

UcanUwill · Post #112 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:00 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I am Saric fan, but i remain sceptical. His passing should translate fine, but his scoring and d? I am not sure. Guy lacks explosiveness and will be block magnet. Also, he is losing his main PF spot on his euro team, to Derrick Brown. Guy is not exactly a wonder child anymore

Everyone in turkey knows he is leaving after this season. In Europe you don't develope an international guy(Furkan gets his minutes even though they now he could leave after this year because he is a Turk) who is going to leave after this season.

Saric is not the project for them. He suppose to be one of team leaders, and I am not saying he isnt, but he is like 7th or 8th in minutes played on his team. Also, that old argument that team knows player is leaving, therefore player plays less is kinda a bs, considering most euro contracts are 1-2 year long. Players leave their teams all the time, that doesnt mean teams arent squeezing the max of what they have in the present.

I like Saric, but people should temper their expectations. He is Spurs esque Boris Diaw type role player.

pass first · Post #113 » by **pass first** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:02 pm

Naija Boy wrote:
dalton749 wrote:sactown is 1-4
boogie at the 4 lol
ross, patterson, knicks pick, our pick, clips pick

Honestly... Cousins could work just fine at the 4 spot. He has legit 3PT range now, bangs the glass hard and can score with the best of them. If we could actually acquire him without moving any of the core four (DD, Lowry, JV, Carroll) that would be incredible.

Would be fine if it'd cost DeMar+JV too.

pass first · Post #114 » by **pass first** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:04 pm

Wraps_fan wrote:Isn't Saric basically just a Jonas Jerebko type of player? tweener forward that has a pretty good 3 point shot, can grab a few boards but can't do much else?

I haven't really watched him or anything thats just what I heard

I really liked Jerebko's defense in his rookie year. Haven't really seen him play since his injury though.

UcanUwill · Post #115 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:12 pm

Wraps_fan wrote:Isn't Saric basically just a Jonas Jerebko type of player? tweener forward that has a pretty good 3 point shot, can grab a few boards but can't do much else?

I haven't really watched him or anything thats just what I heard

Well, if u cat short and make stereotypical Saric describtion, it would be : he cant shoot very well, but is very versatile and can do a lil of everything. So, kinda the exact opposite of what u described.

dalton749 · Post #116 » by **dalton749** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:16 pm

If the Knicks suck it up we should just go after melo. He can play the 4, and makes us contenders fitting in with Lowry and carroll age wise. The stereotypes against him since he came to NY aren't his fault

Wraps_fan · Post #117 » by **Wraps_fan** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:21 pm

dalton749 wrote:If the Knicks suck it up we should just go after melo. He can play the 4, and makes us contenders fitting in with Lowry and carroll age wise. The stereotypes against him since he came to NY aren't his fault

Melo can veto any trade the Knicks make. I don't see him wanting to play in Toronto

Ell Curry · Post #118 » by **Ell Curry** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:39 am

Wraps_fan wrote:Gotta try to snag Markieff at some point this season.

Explain this to me. I don't really get the Markieff love.

Screamshock · Post #119 » by **Screamshock** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:52 am

Would you do D. Derozan + L. Scola for C. Brewer + D. Motiejunas ?

We have young strech 4 in Motiejunas who can play C as well (in case of injury) is good defender and excellent passer. And Brewer would be an upgrade on defence over DD. Both of them combined can provide scoring witch we lose with DD.. More efficient scoring thought.... Houston would go all in with former all star from the bench for scoring and veteran PF wich they know very well.

UcanUwill · Post #120 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:27 pm

Screamshock wrote:Would you do D. Derozan + L. Scola for C. Brewer + D. Motiejunas ?

We have young strech 4 in Motiejunas who can play C as well (in case of injury) is good defender and excellent passer. And Brewer would be an upgrade on defence over DD. Both of them combined can provide scoring witch we lose with DD.. More efficient scoring thought.... Houston would go all in with former all star from the bench for scoring and veteran PF wich they know very well.

I wouldn't do it, I am not a big DeMar fan, but I think he could catch a better deal. But I am just not a fan of Motiejunas, guy is a chucker and faux shooter, and is far from proven (half a season of really good ball vs years of suckiness)