We need to talk about DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors fans. We really do. We’ve got to stop kidding ourselves and we’ve got to stop looking at the 20 points per game that he’s averaging and using it to justify his faults.
DeRozan is most successful and a major positive for his ball club when he drives to the basket... From within 0-3 feet of the hoop he’s shooting 70.6 this season. Great. The problem lies in the fact that he takes the fourth-most of his shots from that area
From 0-3 feet he takes 20.2 percent of his attempts; from 16+ feet he takes 21.8 percent; from 10-16 feet he takes 23.4 percent; and from 3-10 feet he takes 25.0 percent...
He shoots 27.3 percent from 16+ feet, 37.3 percent from 10-16 feet, and 41.3 percent from 3-10 feet. Yikes.
If you watch any good small ball team (or really any good basketball team period), they constantly keep the ball moving. The offense has to be fluid, in motion. Everyone needs to touch the ball on every possession if possible until the right look opens up. DeRozan brings all of that to a screeching halt. It’s not like the Raptors can’t get into a method of doing it, and they often are able to, generally through three quarters. DeRozan has even partaken in it before, so we know he can do it. But most of the time this simply isn’t the case, and instead what we get is No. 10 holding the ball for several seconds as he sizes up his man, then proceeds to drive into him and ends up taking a tough shot like a fallaway jumper. DeRozan plays like a poor man’s James Harden. Or maybe a rich man’s Kobe Bryant...
Where this has become a massive problem for Toronto is in the fourth quarter. For some odd reason, even if the Raps are playing well and they are moving the ball like they need to be, DeRozan seems to feel the need to play hero-ball and try to take over the final 12 minutes himself.
It’s strange and teeth-grindingly, borderline unbearable to watch. It’s now become a constant. The sun will rise, Donald Trump will stay stupid stuff, and DeMar DeRozan will suddenly switch into hero-ball mode in fourth quarters like a mind-controlled zombie.
DeRozan has taken a total of 69 shots in fourth quarters this season. He’s taken the most of those shots (64) when a defender is within a distance of zero feet from him. That’s right, zero feet – meaning he’s pulling up in dude’s mugs constantly. What’s he shooting like with opponent’s that close? 39.0 percent.
Demar DeRozan: Crunch Time Catastrophe
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I didn't think it was that bad..
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A lot of people have been saying this for awhile on here. In which people usually just call them haters and totally disregard what they are trying to say. We no longer can simply look at 20 points a game and assume that they are a good/great player. There is much more to the story.
For me, DeRozan is probably one of the most frustrating players to watch in the NBA. He has stretches where he plays totally within himself and he does a lot of good things. But the issue is, there are A LOT of times that he just forces his game and it gets ugly. He's so inconsistent. He's a good fringe-2nd/3rd option type player, but he is no where near worth the max or near max. Which is something that really worries me this coming off-season.
For me, DeRozan is probably one of the most frustrating players to watch in the NBA. He has stretches where he plays totally within himself and he does a lot of good things. But the issue is, there are A LOT of times that he just forces his game and it gets ugly. He's so inconsistent. He's a good fringe-2nd/3rd option type player, but he is no where near worth the max or near max. Which is something that really worries me this coming off-season.
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Well look, he lives and dies with free throws this season. So yeah, in crunch time when you need a shot maker he's not exactly a great option.
2019 Eastern Conference All Stars
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
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DeRozan is Brick City.
All 3 balls are short, he has no range.
All 3 balls are short, he has no range.
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To be fair, no one else has the balls to shoot in the 4th quarter at all, look at them out there...
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High volume, inefficient iso players that can't knock down a 3 and disrupt the flow of offenses shouldn't be given the green light. Casey on the other hand believes differently.
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The article doesn't bring up his free throw shooting in the clutch, which is a major component to his scoring game that won't show up in the stats they included.
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Choker wrote:The article doesn't bring up his free throw shooting in the clutch, which is a major component to his scoring game that won't show up in the stats they included.
Honestly, half of those FTs are bailout foul calls (that actually improves FG %) that usually won't be called in the playoffs. Also you have more disciplined defense in the playoffs so less likely to bite for the fakes.
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Did Captain Obvious write this article?
It's like the author just discovered the wheel
It's like the author just discovered the wheel
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JV4MVP wrote:Choker wrote:The article doesn't bring up his free throw shooting in the clutch, which is a major component to his scoring game that won't show up in the stats they included.
Honestly, half of those FTs are bailout foul calls (that actually improves FG %) that usually won't be called in the playoffs. Also you have more disciplined defense in the playoffs so less likely to bite for the fakes.
This is a myth that really holds no weight. More fouls are called in the playoffs than they are in the regular season. Against Brooklyn he averaged 11.3 a game. His attempts did tank against Washington, but regardless players who are good at drawing fouls are favored even more in the playoffs than they are in the regular season.
Anyways I'd really like to know what his FT stats are in the 4th quarter, given that he has a TS% of 54.4 in the 4th quarter, which isn't spectacular, but not bad at all.
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Choker wrote:Anyways I'd really like to know what his FT stats are in the 4th quarter, given that he has a TS% of 54.4 in the 4th quarter, which isn't spectacular, but not bad at all.
DD averages 3.2 FTs in the 4th, which is 5th just behind Harden, Jordan, Davis, and Lebron. He also averages 6.6 points which is in top 10.
After scoring to take the lead at 2:54 team didn't go back to him, and we lost. I trust DD most in clutch situations because he is the only one who can drive and score in the paint with contact. His style actually fits late game situations because you have to take tough shots as open shots are at premium.
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To be fair, I think DD is the most reliable player. He also has the balls to make plays in the clutch, unlike the rest of the team.
He can draw a foul, and him driving to the basket, I trust him.
He can draw a foul, and him driving to the basket, I trust him.
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We need to talk about DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors fans. We really do. We’ve got to stop kidding ourselves and we’ve got to stop looking at the 20 points per game that he’s averaging and using it to justify his faults.
No ****. First time I hear this.
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What these piss-poor percentages don't reflect is the number of times he's dribbled the ball off his foot in the fourth quarter. This team will be so much better when he is no longer on it.
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LeGoo wrote:To be fair, no one else has the balls to shoot in the 4th quarter at all, look at them out there...
No one has the ball because Derozan never passes it to them
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He's ninth in usage for players with over 6 minutes in the fourth at 33.4. (31.0 in wins, 36.6 in losses)
The biggest problem with that is he has the lowest assist percentage for a wing. Only Cousins and Davis have lower assist percentage and they're big men. He needs to distribute the rock a bit more in the fourth if he wants to be a wing with that much usage.
If I need to run one play, I would want DD part of it no question. But when he and Lowry over dribble and drive, every team seen that play a million times, it catches up every now and then.
The biggest problem with that is he has the lowest assist percentage for a wing. Only Cousins and Davis have lower assist percentage and they're big men. He needs to distribute the rock a bit more in the fourth if he wants to be a wing with that much usage.
If I need to run one play, I would want DD part of it no question. But when he and Lowry over dribble and drive, every team seen that play a million times, it catches up every now and then.
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LeGoo wrote:To be fair, no one else has the balls to shoot in the 4th quarter at all, look at them out there...
That's not fair.
When someone constantly hogs the ball and plays hero ball, what are they supposed to do? Not to mention, it's deflating as hell when someone always plays hero ball and ignores their teammates.
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Volcano wrote:LeGoo wrote:To be fair, no one else has the balls to shoot in the 4th quarter at all, look at them out there...
No one has the ball because Derozan never passes it to them
Balls, not ball. While I agree Derozan isn't the best clutch player, quite honestly no one on our team is better. Look how bad Cojo and Lowry were tonight, our offense was disgusting.
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LRJ wrote:LeGoo wrote:To be fair, no one else has the balls to shoot in the 4th quarter at all, look at them out there...
That's not fair.
When someone constantly hogs the ball and plays hero ball, what are they supposed to do? Not to mention, it's deflating as hell when someone always plays hero ball and ignores their teammates.
He hogs the ball because that is what he is told to do. Which players would you rather see? Lowry and Cojo look just as bad most of the time.