Is demar derozan a relic?
Moderators: 7 Footer, Duffman100, HiJiNX, niQ, Morris_Shatford, DG88, Reeko, lebron stopper
Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,923
- And1: 2,290
- Joined: Mar 04, 2015
Is demar derozan a relic?
This has nothing to do with his stats or production. I am purely speaking based on his style of play. It seems that his mid range game, foot work, bulldozing style of slashing, post up fadeaways are something we haven't seen from the 2 guard position since prime dwayne wade or kobe bryant. Do you think this style dies after derozan exits the league? he in my opinion will be the last remaining player to adopt this style.
The new generation will be more along the lines of Stephen curry and klay who are phenomenal talents and more representative of what teams are trying to accomplish with the efficient 3 point shot.
The new generation will be more along the lines of Stephen curry and klay who are phenomenal talents and more representative of what teams are trying to accomplish with the efficient 3 point shot.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 32,559
- And1: 26,491
- Joined: Oct 16, 2006
- Location: Toronto, ON
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Demar would be a superstar in the 1970s
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Senior
- Posts: 685
- And1: 306
- Joined: Nov 04, 2012
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
With a more consistent 3 he will be nearly unstoppable on offence, he would drive 24/7 on close outs, then on doubles or triples he would eat defenses alive by passing to open man. Thats the next step, including becoming a lockdown defender.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- artsncrafts
- RealGM
- Posts: 21,606
- And1: 25,047
- Joined: Feb 04, 2013
- Location: Shambleland, Ont.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
I am really impressed with DD THIS year
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,804
- And1: 4,025
- Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
When I read the title I immediately thought of this classic line: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-wXfFTokGQ[/youtube]
And I agree his style is more old school than many players, but I think it is a mistake to say Curry doesn't have an old school approach to the game. Watch GSW pregame stuff and you will see Curry is the first on the court by a long shot doing ball handling exercises and drills for ages.
And I agree his style is more old school than many players, but I think it is a mistake to say Curry doesn't have an old school approach to the game. Watch GSW pregame stuff and you will see Curry is the first on the court by a long shot doing ball handling exercises and drills for ages.
“It’s like being the ugly step child… I’m 6’9 in my heart.” - FVV
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,807
- And1: 8,607
- Joined: Jul 23, 2012
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
He's just getting started.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- RaptorsLife
- RealGM
- Posts: 49,248
- And1: 84,017
- Joined: Feb 16, 2015
- Location: Brampton
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Scary thing he can get better. Have a even Tighter Handle and 3 pt shot
Raptors til death
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- Badonkadonk
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,472
- And1: 11,807
- Joined: Jul 11, 2012
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
I prefer the term throwback.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- SuigintouEV
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,939
- And1: 1,555
- Joined: Jun 05, 2006
- Contact:
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
You don't need to be a 3 point shooter to be an efficient scorer. But being a 2 point shooter means you better be scoring on a higher percentage of your field goals for a true shooting percentage of 56% or more. Demar's .545 this year is a marked improvement over most years, but it's still poor when placed against the likes of Dwyane Wade. Wade from 2005 to 2014 was regularily above that 56% mark.
The midrange game - the true midrange game used by Kobe, Jordan, Tony Parker, Wade etc, will never die because it'll always be the most unguardable thing in basketball. Steph Curry is a freak of nature and we'll probably not for many decades see another player whose "midrange game" applies to 3 point range.
The midrange game - the true midrange game used by Kobe, Jordan, Tony Parker, Wade etc, will never die because it'll always be the most unguardable thing in basketball. Steph Curry is a freak of nature and we'll probably not for many decades see another player whose "midrange game" applies to 3 point range.
"May those who accept their fate find happiness. May those who defy it find glory."
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- Clutch0z24
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,793
- And1: 8,094
- Joined: May 08, 2014
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
I came in here thinking you calling DD a mutant Relic from his looks lol
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- MEDIC
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,671
- And1: 9,043
- Joined: Jul 25, 2006
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
I don't get the similarities at all.
I guess Demar wears a toque sometimes & leaves a little scruff on his face.
I guess Demar wears a toque sometimes & leaves a little scruff on his face.
* Props to the man, the myth, the legend......TZ.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 26,341
- And1: 8,676
- Joined: Mar 14, 2006
- Location: Hotlantic Canada
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Relic would have gotten that mole removed ages ago.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,776
- And1: 5,305
- Joined: Apr 23, 2007
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
He's the prototype for the a new style of player that many will strive to be.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- hankscorpioLA
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,528
- And1: 10,007
- Joined: Dec 15, 2011
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
dekobedeharden wrote:
The new generation will be more along the lines of Stephen curry and klay who are phenomenal talents and more representative of what teams are trying to accomplish with the efficient 3 point shot.
I think this is a tremendous misreading of the current situation.
The Warriors can do what they do because they have two of the best three point shooters in NBA history in their starting backcourt.
Also, as teams adjust to new offenses, they are beginning to focus on running shooters of the three point line and defending the rim.
Guess what part of the floor that opens up?
The absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- Steelo Green
- RealGM
- Posts: 14,606
- And1: 24,821
- Joined: Feb 06, 2013
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Demar is his own kind of player due to lack of a good long range jumper.
That drive to the basket, is one of the best in the NBA now.
He scores through ridiculous amounts of contact, with or without the call.
A key difference in Demars game is the lack of being rushed and his footwork. 10 seconds on the clock, about 10 feet from the basket, no real shot, would have been a fade, he fakes the opponent, spins into the basket for a bank, or with his athleticism, he can get near a layup. He also uses that same fake, leaner into the basket to find open players when the rim protector hedges to help the man Demar faked off the ball, who are open for either a three, or an easy score around the basket.
The IQ has improved immensely. He plays to his strengths, along with new skills such as huge improvements in the ball handling, in tandem with now trusting Jonas, which has worked really well.
I wonder if anyone (VVV if you're reading, you are the best at this), can find the PPP in a PnR between Jonas and Val, or the efficiency on assists from Demar to Jonas. I expect it to be really high using the eyeball test, but the frequency and usage to be really low.
That drive to the basket, is one of the best in the NBA now.
He scores through ridiculous amounts of contact, with or without the call.
A key difference in Demars game is the lack of being rushed and his footwork. 10 seconds on the clock, about 10 feet from the basket, no real shot, would have been a fade, he fakes the opponent, spins into the basket for a bank, or with his athleticism, he can get near a layup. He also uses that same fake, leaner into the basket to find open players when the rim protector hedges to help the man Demar faked off the ball, who are open for either a three, or an easy score around the basket.
The IQ has improved immensely. He plays to his strengths, along with new skills such as huge improvements in the ball handling, in tandem with now trusting Jonas, which has worked really well.
I wonder if anyone (VVV if you're reading, you are the best at this), can find the PPP in a PnR between Jonas and Val, or the efficiency on assists from Demar to Jonas. I expect it to be really high using the eyeball test, but the frequency and usage to be really low.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
- Inklink
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,411
- And1: 19,214
- Joined: Apr 25, 2014
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Bankai wrote:Demar would be a superstar in the 1970s
Bro, he's a superstar right now.
For lease.
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,453
- And1: 1,345
- Joined: Aug 03, 2015
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
KingTdot wrote:With a more consistent 3 he will be nearly unstoppable on offence, he would drive 24/7 on close outs, then on doubles or triples he would eat defenses alive by passing to open man. Thats the next step, including becoming a lockdown defender.
i tweet him this message almost weekly- killer 3 and lockdown defender and demar my man, you will be unstoppable
great post KingTdot
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,453
- And1: 1,345
- Joined: Aug 03, 2015
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
Inklink wrote:Bankai wrote:Demar would be a superstar in the 1970s
Bro, he's a superstar right now.
getting there- let's get some playoff success with him dominating when defences get up into him and then we'll see
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,453
- And1: 1,345
- Joined: Aug 03, 2015
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
RaptorsLife wrote:Scary thing he can get better. Have a even Tighter Handle and 3 pt shot
kyles in his ear about this- make them respect you from three then on pump fake straight to rack !!!
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,837
- And1: 5,019
- Joined: Jul 20, 2006
Re: Is demar derozan a relic?
TheGoodDoctor wrote:He's just getting started.