OT - Worst run organization in NBA?

yodamaster · Post #61 » by **yodamaster** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 8:25 pm

sac town. the have divac and peja in upper management, clearly yes-men to crazy vivek.
DMC needs to get the hell out of there, i feel sorry for kings fans, they were so awesome back in webber days.

Courtside · Post #62 » by **Courtside** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 8:28 pm

dacrusha wrote:The Kings are where the Raptors were a few years back.

One star (DMC/Bosh) and ZERO commitment to defense.

Their best bet is to gut the team, get some great pieces for DMC and start over again with a defensive minded approach.

Was that your desired direction for the Raptors with Bosh too?

cammac · Post #63 » by **cammac** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 8:35 pm

Minny & SAC are all time worst teams and soon we will have passed NYKs in record from our starting point.

omar36 · Post #64 » by **omar36** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 8:38 pm

Courtside wrote:
dacrusha wrote:The Kings are where the Raptors were a few years back.

One star (DMC/Bosh) and ZERO commitment to defense.

Their best bet is to gut the team, get some great pieces for DMC and start over again with a defensive minded approach.

Was that your desired direction for the Raptors with Bosh too?

atleast we were able to make the playoffs.

sac is wasting there time with shuffling coach after coach. they need a rebuild, a proper one and trading boogie to he celtics would net a monster return. also gay/rondo/casspi all playing well and could get back nice pieces as well.

Courtside · Post #65 » by **Courtside** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:16 pm

omar36 wrote:
Courtside wrote:
dacrusha wrote:The Kings are where the Raptors were a few years back.

One star (DMC/Bosh) and ZERO commitment to defense.

Their best bet is to gut the team, get some great pieces for DMC and start over again with a defensive minded approach.

Was that your desired direction for the Raptors with Bosh too?

atleast we were able to make the playoffs.

sac is wasting there time with shuffling coach after coach. they need a rebuild, a proper one and trading boogie to he celtics would net a monster return. also gay/rondo/casspi all playing well and could get back nice pieces as well.

I quoted dacrusha specifically to get his direct response, not sure why you're answering for him.

Jonn · Post #66 » by **Jonn** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:25 pm

Kings seem to have no idea what they are doing.

yodamaster · Post #67 » by **yodamaster** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:29 pm

Jonn wrote:Kings seem to have no idea what they are doing.

only good thing about vivek is her hot daughter... as an NBA owner he fails utterly.

Jonn · Post #68 » by **Jonn** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:30 pm

yodamaster wrote:
Jonn wrote:Kings seem to have no idea what they are doing.

only good thing about vivek is her hot daughter... as an NBA owner he fails utterly.

Damn. Yea she's a dime. She could run my team any day.

Lateral Quicks · Post #69 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:39 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Looking at the title alone, before opening it, my answer would have been Kings in the West, Sixers in the east, and overall the Kings. At least the Sixers have a plan. Its a stupid plan, and its been poorly executed plan, but its a plan!!

I thought the Sixers plan was a favourite of the tank crowd. That it hasn't worked doesn't mean it's been executed poorly. It just means it's a bad plan to begin with.

Some teams have been rebuilding for 5-10 years. Heck the Raps we're rebuilding from about 2002 to 2014 themselves. Meanwhile The Sixers have had this current plan in place for only 2 1/2 seasons now and they've collected a boatload of assets towards their end goal. Can you please explain how this is already deemed a failed plan when we've yet to see the full execution?

I would say 2.5 years is a long time to see no improvement to what is just awful play. We'll see what happens, but I remain highly skeptical. Transformational players are very rare in the draft, and not of all of them are to be found in the top 5 or top 3.

SaveTheHens · Post #70 » by **SaveTheHens** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 11:00 pm

The Cavs should be on that list. They are the least competent franchise in the NBA. They're a very lucky team for having been the hometown team of Lebron and for winning so many first overall picks (including the one to take Lebron). Since Lebron left them the first time they sucked bad and they had some amazing picks to rebuild with. All they have to show for it is Kyrie. Wiggins could have been a great piece on that Cavs team but they got Love and he hasn't really fit. They also fired Blatt midseason when they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. The Cavs are definitely the worst run organization in the NBA

Slim_Charles · Post #71 » by **Slim_Charles** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 11:10 pm

Definitely Sacramento

martypython · Post #72 » by **martypython** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 11:30 pm

SaveTheHens wrote:The Cavs should be on that list. They are the least competent franchise in the NBA. They're a very lucky team for having been the hometown team of Lebron and for winning so many first overall picks (including the one to take Lebron). Since Lebron left them the first time they sucked bad and they had some amazing picks to rebuild with. All they have to show for it is Kyrie. Wiggins could have been a great piece on that Cavs team but they got Love and he hasn't really fit. They also fired Blatt midseason when they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. The Cavs are definitely the worst run organization in the NBA

Blatt was hired to coach a young and upcoming team with Irving/(at the time Wiggins)/and that nutcase Waiters. Then Lebron came back and all hell broke loose.

Arguably, Blatt was the biggest reason why the Cavs managed to take the Warriors to six games with an undermanned squad. There was no reason to fire Blatt when the Cavs are leading the Eastern Conference. Blatt had over 10 years coaching in his belt, he's far from ill equipped to coach. Managing personalities is another story, but when your front office sabotaged any authority Blatt had, there's nothing you can do.

Throwback24 · Post #73 » by **Throwback24** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 11:41 pm

Karl deserves to be fired though...

The_Hater · Post #74 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 11:43 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:
I thought the Sixers plan was a favourite of the tank crowd. That it hasn't worked doesn't mean it's been executed poorly. It just means it's a bad plan to begin with.

Some teams have been rebuilding for 5-10 years. Heck the Raps we're rebuilding from about 2002 to 2014 themselves. Meanwhile The Sixers have had this current plan in place for only 2 1/2 seasons now and they've collected a boatload of assets towards their end goal. Can you please explain how this is already deemed a failed plan when we've yet to see the full execution?

I would say 2.5 years is a long time to see no improvement to what is just awful play. We'll see what happens, but I remain highly skeptical. Transformational players are very rare in the draft, and not of all of them are to be found in the top 5 or top 3.

2.5 years is a long time to rebuild? Since when? That seems like a very unfair timeline to hold them too.

As it is, tanking fully for 3 years was obviously a huge part of the plan since they've made zero attempt to add any quality free agents to the mix despite having more cap space than any team in the league. And it's not like they have nothing to show for it with a huge trunk full of assets that makes most other teams jealous. They have a bunch of different directions they could take going forward now.

Let the Sixers finish executing their full plan before deeming it a failure. Doing anything else is premature.

Post #75 » by **G R E Y** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:10 am

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Raps Militia · Post #76 » by **Raps Militia** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:12 am

Where is the Cavs?

C_Money · Post #77 » by **C_Money** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:17 am

It was us back in the Bryan Colangelo era. Now days its probably Philly. Their "future stars" are not that good.

The_Hater · Post #78 » by **The_Hater** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:21 am

SaveTheHens wrote:The Cavs should be on that list. They are the least competent franchise in the NBA. They're a very lucky team for having been the hometown team of Lebron and for winning so many first overall picks (including the one to take Lebron). Since Lebron left them the first time they sucked bad and they had some amazing picks to rebuild with. All they have to show for it is Kyrie. Wiggins could have been a great piece on that Cavs team but they got Love and he hasn't really fit. They also fired Blatt midseason when they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. The Cavs are definitely the worst run organization in the NBA

Assuming that you're not trolling, this might be the dumbest post I've read in months. Congratulations.

FYI, the Cavs finished last season 35-3 with Bron, Irving and that terrible fit Love in the lineup coached by that other mistake, David Blatt. What a failure.

The_Hater · Post #79 » by **The_Hater** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:28 am

C_Money wrote:It was us back in the Bryan Colangelo era. Now days its probably Philly. Their "future stars" are not that good.

The 2 picks the Sixers have made themselves who are still on the roster are Noel, who is an excellent defender albeit a poor offensive player and Okafor, who actually does look like he has an excellent future. Their 2 lottery picks from 2014, Saric and Embiid, have yet to play a single NBA game and they have as many as TEN 1st round picks in the next 3 drafts that they can either use themselves or in trades for established talent. I would have to believe that it will be a combination of both.

Hard to say that their young talent has failed when most of it hasn't even arrived yet don't you think?

SaveTheHens · Post #80 » by **SaveTheHens** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 1:47 am

The_Hater wrote:
SaveTheHens wrote:The Cavs should be on that list. They are the least competent franchise in the NBA. They're a very lucky team for having been the hometown team of Lebron and for winning so many first overall picks (including the one to take Lebron). Since Lebron left them the first time they sucked bad and they had some amazing picks to rebuild with. All they have to show for it is Kyrie. Wiggins could have been a great piece on that Cavs team but they got Love and he hasn't really fit. They also fired Blatt midseason when they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. The Cavs are definitely the worst run organization in the NBA

Assuming that you're not trolling, this might be the dumbest post I've read in months. Congratulations.

FYI, the Cavs finished last season 35-3 with Bron, Irving and that terrible fit Love in the lineup coached by that other mistake, David Blatt. What a failure.

If David Blatt wasn't a mistake, then why fire him? He could have been fired right off the bat so that the team developed good chemistry. After so much success there is no reason to fire him so unexpectadly.

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