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OT: Scola in the Playoffs

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OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#1 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:10 pm

Hey guys, just got a question. What happened to Scola in the post season? His stats were terrible, got a lot of DNPs but still started a lot.

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Post#2 » by JJ From Deep » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:13 pm

He was very bad
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#3 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:14 pm

Scola was hot garbage after the first half of the season. His legs were gone, he is just too old. In the playoffs, he couldn't keep up with any one and was a terrible match up vs myles turner/solomon hill and luol deng.
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Post#4 » by Dr Octagon » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:14 pm

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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#5 » by super_balls » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:26 pm

Won a trip to Indiana just to see him miss open 3s and be a pylon on defence..
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Post#6 » by 0 - 100 » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:26 pm

Had a very good first 30% of the season then his body just derailed and played lousy for the rest of the season including the playoffs.
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Post#7 » by Throwback24 » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:30 pm

He started because he brought a wealth of experience and winning to our SL. We made the conf. finals due in part to his huge bench press numbers and accolades.
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Post#8 » by Scott Hall » Wed Aug 3, 2016 6:30 pm

He expired like a carton of milk. He's got no juice in his legs anymore their shot.


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Post#9 » by Alfred » Wed Aug 3, 2016 7:06 pm

He was pretty good guarding Kevin Love, but other than that, he was pretty terrible. As other people said, his first half of the season was great -- hitting open threes, playing okay defense, making smart plays, etc. In the second half of the season and playoffs, he was a net negative.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#10 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Aug 3, 2016 8:42 pm

Thx guys, but why did he have to start whenever he played if he was so bad?
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Post#11 » by First Step » Wed Aug 3, 2016 9:18 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:Thx guys, but why did he have to start whenever he played if he was so bad?

Because Dwane Casey doesn't like to make adjustments, regardless of how obvious they are.
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Post#12 » by Jonn » Wed Aug 3, 2016 9:19 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:Thx guys, but why did he have to start whenever he played if he was so bad?


So Patterson could play with the second unit. There is no understanding Casey's rotations or why Scola played as much as he did. Especially with Jonas.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#13 » by Smitson » Wed Aug 3, 2016 9:33 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:Thx guys, but why did he have to start whenever he played if he was so bad?

Powelll couldn't guard Wade or Lebron and Patterson is a mental midget who isn't capable of starting. That left us with a choice between scola, James Johnson and Jason Thompson. We picked the least harmful of An awful trio.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#14 » by tsherkin » Wed Aug 3, 2016 10:30 pm

Regular Season

Pre AS Break: 22.9 mpg, 9.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg, 45/43.2/78.5%, 105 ORTG, 52.1% TS, 52 G
Post AS Break: 20.5 mpg, 7.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 44.9/36.4/52.6%, 100 ORTG, 52.9% TS, 24 G

He shot under 26.5% from 3 in February and April (15 total games) and was 6/13 from the line across February and April, plus wasn't any good at drawing fouls (as always).

TL;DR: he shot worse from 3 and blew from the line. It continued into the playoffs. Was never good at D or at scoring efficiently.

This is Scola we're talking about. He was only ever at best a decent player, and we folded him into a specific role, and the main skill supporting his utility in that role went away.
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Post#15 » by thunderforce » Wed Aug 3, 2016 10:54 pm

I think playing almost every minute of every game in that tournament before the season started took a lot out of him , he only had enough left for the first third of the season .
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#16 » by Inklink » Wed Aug 3, 2016 11:07 pm

Alfred wrote:He was pretty good guarding Kevin Love, but other than that, he was pretty terrible. As other people said, his first half of the season was great -- hitting open threes, playing okay defense, making smart plays, etc. In the second half of the season and playoffs, he was a net negative.


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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#17 » by pingpongrac » Wed Aug 3, 2016 11:22 pm

tsherkin wrote:Regular Season

Pre AS Break: 22.9 mpg, 9.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg, 45/43.2/78.5%, 105 ORTG, 52.1% TS, 52 G
Post AS Break: 20.5 mpg, 7.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 44.9/36.4/52.6%, 100 ORTG, 52.9% TS, 24 G

He shot under 26.5% from 3 in February and April (15 total games) and was 6/13 from the line across February and April, plus wasn't any good at drawing fouls (as always).

TL;DR: he shot worse from 3 and blew from the line. It continued into the playoffs. Was never good at D or at scoring efficiently.

This is Scola we're talking about. He was only ever at best a decent player, and we folded him into a specific role, and the main skill supporting his utility in that role went away.


This is why I don't like TS% very much. It's such a deceiving stat. By all accounts, Scola was worse post-AS break than he was pre-AS break, but his TS% numbers say the opposite, though it's not a major difference.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#18 » by tsherkin » Wed Aug 3, 2016 11:33 pm

pingpongrac wrote:This is why I don't like TS% very much. It's such a deceiving stat. By all accounts, Scola was worse post-AS break than he was pre-AS break, but his TS% numbers say the opposite, though it's not a major difference.


ORTG shows it clearly enough. 3P% shows it clearly enough. The thing you're missing post-break is that while his 3P% was slightly down and he was blowing on the < 20 FTA he had.

Also, you need to realize that he shot a lot less, the sample size is way small, and his 3pr was about 2x what it had been prior to the break, so that influences his raw efficiency.

If you want to think about it:

Pre-Break: 14.8 PTS36 on 13.4 FGA36
Post-Break: 14.0 PTS36 on 12.6 FGA36

The difference is that pre-break, he played 1,190 minutes and he played only 446 post-break, so we already know that the sample is tiny. Beyond that, we see the wild difference in 3Pr, too, so even though his 2FG% was worse, he shot less per-minute from there, so it mattered less, especially with a fairly similar draw rate.

TS% isn't wrong, he WAS more efficient, but that sample is nearly inadmissible and there was a major difference in 3FG relative to FGA.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#19 » by biyombo » Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:39 am

His wheelchair broke right around the start of the playoffs, and the added stress of him having to walk to the court simply drained the energy he otherwise would have had throughout the game.
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Re: OT: Scola in the Playoffs 

Post#20 » by slothrop8 » Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:53 am

pingpongrac wrote:
tsherkin wrote:Regular Season

Pre AS Break: 22.9 mpg, 9.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg, 45/43.2/78.5%, 105 ORTG, 52.1% TS, 52 G
Post AS Break: 20.5 mpg, 7.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 44.9/36.4/52.6%, 100 ORTG, 52.9% TS, 24 G

He shot under 26.5% from 3 in February and April (15 total games) and was 6/13 from the line across February and April, plus wasn't any good at drawing fouls (as always).

TL;DR: he shot worse from 3 and blew from the line. It continued into the playoffs. Was never good at D or at scoring efficiently.

This is Scola we're talking about. He was only ever at best a decent player, and we folded him into a specific role, and the main skill supporting his utility in that role went away.


This is why I don't like TS% very much. It's such a deceiving stat. By all accounts, Scola was worse post-AS break than he was pre-AS break, but his TS% numbers say the opposite, though it's not a major difference.


Offensively, he actually had a great month of March for us - if we start getting into the arbitrary breakdown of months. He was abysmal in February - then played a little less minutes overall in March and shot the ball great. Over 50% from the field, 22/44 for .500 from 3 pt - 61.9% TS. He was very efficient offensively for most the run into the playoffs - though tiny sample size warning is in effect.

However, he was a woeful fit defensively with Demar and JV and had been for months and months - something apparent to all observers and even some disinterested passers-by who wandered by a TV set playing a Raptors game and were able to immediately identify it. So when the playoffs started and Scola started cold from the field - and the series was unexpectedly tight - though mostly due to the collective ineptitude of our starting guards than Scola personally - Casey finally, mercifully made the move to bench him.

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