OT Andrea Bargnani EL interview

[toast]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

Not sure if you are serious.

He's actually not that far off, in a few statistical categories

Points
1. Chris Bosh 10275
2. DeMar DeRozan 9436
3. Vince Carter 9420
4. Andrea Bargnani 6581

Total Rebounds
1. Chris Bosh 4776
2. Antonio Davis 2839
3. Amir Johnson 2836
4. Jonas Valanciunas 2326
5. Andrea Bargnani 2095

Blocks
1. Chris Bosh 600
2. Amir Johnson 480
3. Vince Carter 415
4. Antonio Davis 405
5. Andrea Bargnani 382

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/leaders_career.html

That is the definition of cherry picking stats

Using the same basketball reference
He is not top 10 in PER or Value over Replacement.
Even for the positive categories you mentioned he is 8th in PPG behind Walt Williams and Jalen Rose (and the usual suspects)
He is not top 10 in RPG
He is not top top 10 in Blks per game

He is 6th in minutes played though.

If you were picking a team to win a season from all the players in Raps History their is no way he is close to top 10.

[Jstock12]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

How can he possibly be ahead of Vince, Bosh, Derozan, Lowry..... that's before we even get to those that are at least mildly debatable.

[Mikestro]

Guys let's not forget that 13 game stretch where he looked like Dirk 2.0.

[UcanUwill]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

How can he possibly be ahead of Vince, Bosh, Derozan, Lowry..... that's before we even get to those that are at least mildly debatable.

I assume mods deleted your Dave Chappelle GIF, that caused some confusion

[JN]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

How can he possibly be ahead of Vince, Bosh, Derozan, Lowry..... that's before we even get to those that are at least mildly debatable.

There has been so many magnificently idiotic things said about Bargs over the years that sometimes you never know... but I should have known.

My sarcasm meter is usually good, and I don't use green for sarcasm either because that defeats the purpose.

[OakleyDokely]

Bargnani 16/17 Euro Update:

11 games, 23.2 minutes, 13.2 points, 3.1 rebounds, 0.6 assists, 0.9 blocks, 0.1 steals, .500 FG%, .370 3PT%, .708 FT%

[UcanUwill]

Bargnani 16/17 Euro Update:

11 games, 23.2 minutes, 13.2 points, 3.1 rebounds, 0.6 assists, 0.9 blocks, 0.1 steals, .500 FG%, .370 3PT%, .708 FT%

He started EL season very well, looked like a star, but then got injured, missed couple of weeks, and returned looking pretty bad. I thought he was terrible last night against CSKA. Clanked almost everything, took bad shots overall, and still cant rebound to save his life. His team started the game hot, but CSKA quickly turned things around because of huge advantage on the boards.

[LLJ]

In a much smaller scale he reminds me of VC = lack of motivation, waste of talent

On short spurs AB proved that he has the gift but no drive...just imagine he had DD's work ethic...

He had the gift of shooting, and that's pretty much it. Was an ok 1vs1 defender I guess, but his game had holes in it like Swiss cheese. I get your comparison to Carter in the low drive and wasted talent category, but honestly Bargnani had literally 1/10th of the natural skill VC had, and that percentage could be generous.

Even his shooting was only good the first 2 seasons. After that he became a pretty mediocre shooter.

[whatamoron]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

Top 3? I would think you should think about that one a little more.
What is your opinion of the talent level of Carter, McGrady, Damon Stoudamire, Jose Calderon, Anthony Parker,
DeRozan, Lowry, Marcus Camby, Charles Oakley, Chris Bosh, Jonas Valanciunas, Rudy Gay, Bismack Biyombo,
Chauncey Billups, Hakeem Olajuwan, Jermaine O'Neal, and Radoslav Nesterovic

[Childs]

Watch on YouTube

[sule]

Last week, Bargnani led Baskonia to an 85-84 home win in Round 1, scoring 18 of his 26 points - a new EuroLeague career-high - in the first half. He also shot great percentages, making 8 of11 two-point shots and hitting 2 of his 3 attempts from downtown. In other words, 'Il Mago' is ready

SETTING RECORDS... STRAIGHT RECORDS.

I know you guys are wondering... he grabbed 4 reboards.

Yeah but 4 Euro rebounds is the equivalent of 8-10 NBA rebounds.

But that was in 2006 rebounds. Did you account for inflation?

[The_Hater]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

What?!?

Bargs isn't even a top 10 player in Raptors history.

[mrdressup]

Il maggot, aka the flying spaghetti monster...Avid practitioner of the face plant and generally underappreciated master stoic. Look like he's maintained his NB standard in Europe.

[LLJ]

Total Rebounds
1. Chris Bosh 4776
2. Antonio Davis 2839
3. Amir Johnson 2836
4. Jonas Valanciunas 2326
5. Andrea Bargnani 2095
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Mistake here--DeRozan actually has more total rebounds than Bargs. So we can bump him off #5 now. It's a travesty for Bargs to be on any rebound records list.

[Saul Goodman]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

I would slot

Vince
Bosh
Demar
Kyle
T-Mac
JV
Antonio Davis
Charles Oakley
Jose Calderon


ahead of Bargs

[raptoradical]

He's GONE get over it.

[Slo]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

I would slot

Vince
Bosh
Demar
Kyle
T-Mac
JV
Antonio Davis
Charles Oakley
Jose Calderon


ahead of Bargs

Bargs was a net negative player everytime he was on the floor for the Raps. I would slot Michael **** Curry and Matt Bonner in front of him.

[Mascot]

So much hate for Bargnani around these parts but there's no denying that he's a top3 player in Raptors franchise history.

Not sure if you are serious.

He's actually not that far off, in a few statistical categories

Points
1. Chris Bosh 10275
2. DeMar DeRozan 9436
3. Vince Carter 9420
4. Andrea Bargnani 6581

Total Rebounds
1. Chris Bosh 4776
2. Antonio Davis 2839
3. Amir Johnson 2836
4. Jonas Valanciunas 2326
5. Andrea Bargnani 2095

Blocks
1. Chris Bosh 600
2. Amir Johnson 480
3. Vince Carter 415
4. Antonio Davis 405
5. Andrea Bargnani 382

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/leaders_career.html

Was anything said about DeRozan passing Carter on the all time scoring list? I only watched part of the game last night so might have missed it. Seems to me that it is quite important, but that might just be me. He will also come very close to passing Bosh and/or pass him by a few hundred this season.

[LLJ]

Not sure if you are serious.

He's actually not that far off, in a few statistical categories

Points
1. Chris Bosh 10275
2. DeMar DeRozan 9436
3. Vince Carter 9420
4. Andrea Bargnani 6581

Total Rebounds
1. Chris Bosh 4776
2. Antonio Davis 2839
3. Amir Johnson 2836
4. Jonas Valanciunas 2326
5. Andrea Bargnani 2095

Blocks
1. Chris Bosh 600
2. Amir Johnson 480
3. Vince Carter 415
4. Antonio Davis 405
5. Andrea Bargnani 382

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/leaders_career.html

Was anything said about DeRozan passing Carter on the all time scoring list? I only watched part of the game last night so might have missed it. Seems to me that it is quite important, but that might just be me. He will also come very close to passing Bosh and/or pass him by a few hundred this season.

The stats OOY posted are actually out of date. DeRozan passed Carter late last season vs the Knicks

[changes]

He would make us a contender tbh. Bring him home.