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Asif16 wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Where did this news about Detroit being interested in Cory come from?
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No news. Just fan speculation/guesses. Pistons fans like Joseph. So I figured Marcus Morris would be a good target in that case
ash_k wrote:sogood wrote:ash_k wrote:from a Lakers perspective:
2nd Pick + Clarkson for DeMar
Ingram + Russell + Randle for PG13
add on and fillers here and there.
Good look for the Lakers
Everybody wins, if the BLOWUP BUTTON is accidently pressed by Masai.
IMO Lakers hang up laughing at both offers. No way they trade the pick for DeMar and why would they trade all that for someone they can just sign after next season? I don't think they would trade Ingram OR Russell for George let alone both and Randle.
One year from now is a looong time. Magic talks about stars. He wants stars right now.
Looking at the state of the Lakers, I can’t imagine anything more exciting that bringing 2 Californians /2 All Stars entering their prime that have dreamt about being Lakers from birth. I just can’t. I would expect to see a lot of tears during their Introductory Press Conf.
Ingram + Russell + Randle together are not worth PG13-2way Franchise Changing talent. (This would be one of those Melo-to-NY type of scenario)
Pacers then have Myles Turner, Ingram, Russell, Randle as a young team. Pretty ‘Exciting’
The 2017-Class is getting overrated now. Markelle and Lonzo are nowhere near the Kyries, Westbrooks, Walls. I kind of expect Lonzo's game/shot/body to bust but we will see ( I must be missing something with him and all the hype
Obviously, I would not want Masai to pick Lonzo as the 2nd pick
sogood wrote:ash_k wrote:sogood wrote:
IMO Lakers hang up laughing at both offers. No way they trade the pick for DeMar and why would they trade all that for someone they can just sign after next season? I don't think they would trade Ingram OR Russell for George let alone both and Randle.
One year from now is a looong time. Magic talks about stars. He wants stars right now.
Looking at the state of the Lakers, I can’t imagine anything more exciting that bringing 2 Californians /2 All Stars entering their prime that have dreamt about being Lakers from birth. I just can’t. I would expect to see a lot of tears during their Introductory Press Conf.
Ingram + Russell + Randle together are not worth PG13-2way Franchise Changing talent. (This would be one of those Melo-to-NY type of scenario)
Pacers then have Myles Turner, Ingram, Russell, Randle as a young team. Pretty ‘Exciting’
The 2017-Class is getting overrated now. Markelle and Lonzo are nowhere near the Kyries, Westbrooks, Walls. I kind of expect Lonzo's game/shot/body to bust but we will see ( I must be missing something with him and all the hype
Obviously, I would not want Masai to pick Lonzo as the 2nd pick
lol I don't man. If I were the Lakers, I wouldn't give them **** if their star player said this.
He was nervous, he slipped up! that was Kimmel after all.Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
zilby wrote:If Phoenix is keeping #4 and intent on one of those high-ranked guards in the draft, what are the odds we could trade for one of Bledsoe/Knight (preferably Bledsoe) and somehow off Carroll's contract in the process?
Rapsfan07 wrote:
1. Poeltl isn't ready to start. That's way too much youth and inexperience at the C position for team trying to compete.
2. I don't think Charlotte moves a lotto pick for Powell and Carroll. Both can simply be signed next year if they want them that badly
3. That bench is very thin and will struggle to score.
4. Adding Bebe and Bruno (two guys who aren't playing anyways) eases the blow of Melo's 15% trade kicker. If we're trying to pay as little tax as possible, that's a move we should be making.
5. Why trade Wright and then take on Sessions when we can simply hand the back reigns to Wright? if this doesn't work out, we have a young PG under contract to build with.
If you're going to do an Anthony deal, better to do Val, Carroll, Bebe, Bruno & #23 for Melo, O'Quinn and CHI 2nd round pick then just pick a shooter in the second round.
bigmandinky wrote:The only possible Win Now move on the horizon would be a trade for Melo (if he even wants to come to Tdot).
Carroll + JV + Sweetener (Delon, Bebe, First Rounder) for Melo + Kyle O'Quinn.
Resign Kyle + Ibaka + Tucker. Sign a cheap 3pt sniper off the bench - ala Nick Young or Luke Babbit.
Get a new coach to completely change the offence.
Lowry/Cojo
Demar/Norm
Tucker/Babbit
Melo/
Ibaka/O'Quinn/Poeltl
Melo and Serge should be getting all the minutes at the 4, but the roster has a lot of flexibility. Who knows if it'll work, but it has way more talent and firepower than any previous Raptors team. On offense, basically everybody except Demar can hit the 3 pretty well, while O'Quinn and Poeltl are hustle bigs that will focus on crashing the offensive glass (and protect the rim on the other end).
This seems to be the type of formula that works in the NBA nowadays and hopefully - with a new coach that makes us share the ball - we'll be able to maximize this play style.
bballsparkin wrote:^^I'm not crazy about going for it with this core. But that line up would be interesting hah.
Asif16 wrote:Which one
bballsparkin wrote:Asif16 wrote:Which one
Lowry
Derozan
Melo
Morris
Ibaka
With a re-signed Tucker. That would be a lot of options to put on the floor. Melo and DD together seems like a defensive disaster waiting to happen though.
edit: I wouldn't include the 2017 first for Melo though. Other sweeteners would suffice though.
Not sayin I want this trade to happen. But it would definitely have me tuning in game 1 with interest.
iqbalpanchod wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:
1. Poeltl isn't ready to start. That's way too much youth and inexperience at the C position for team trying to compete.
2. I don't think Charlotte moves a lotto pick for Powell and Carroll. Both can simply be signed next year if they want them that badly
3. That bench is very thin and will struggle to score.
4. Adding Bebe and Bruno (two guys who aren't playing anyways) eases the blow of Melo's 15% trade kicker. If we're trying to pay as little tax as possible, that's a move we should be making.
5. Why trade Wright and then take on Sessions when we can simply hand the back reigns to Wright? if this doesn't work out, we have a young PG under contract to build with.
If you're going to do an Anthony deal, better to do Val, Carroll, Bebe, Bruno & #23 for Melo, O'Quinn and CHI 2nd round pick then just pick a shooter in the second round.
Poeltl isn't ready? Why? He is. Take advantage of his cheap contract inside of rotting him on the bench.
You need to re-read the post. It's Cojo and Powell for 11 and Sessions (salary reasons). It gives them immediate impact and improves the guard positiond immediately.
Luckily there's 3 offensive powers on the roster for scoring. The shooters add more offensive fire power. Wright can lead the second unit and create as well. If we draft Semi Ojeleye he is a pretty good scorer too. There's enough, among two top ten scorers, Lowry and multiple advanced three point specialists.
Sessions matches salary. I'm giving up at maximum Carroll and Val (maybe Cojo if O Quinn is included). Bebe and Bruno have great potential and Melo has zero value.
The addition of shooting, length, athleticism, and ball handling is needed in our line up. One to protect the perimeter against high three point shooting teams and secondly spread the floor against doubles. Bebe and Bruno fit great as they can switch, have great defensive potential, and are cheap.
Getting Melo instead of re-signing Ibaka/Tucker makes the trade kicker easier to swallow.
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Rapsfan07 wrote:iqbalpanchod wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:
1. Poeltl isn't ready to start. That's way too much youth and inexperience at the C position for team trying to compete.
2. I don't think Charlotte moves a lotto pick for Powell and Carroll. Both can simply be signed next year if they want them that badly
3. That bench is very thin and will struggle to score.
4. Adding Bebe and Bruno (two guys who aren't playing anyways) eases the blow of Melo's 15% trade kicker. If we're trying to pay as little tax as possible, that's a move we should be making.
5. Why trade Wright and then take on Sessions when we can simply hand the back reigns to Wright? if this doesn't work out, we have a young PG under contract to build with.
If you're going to do an Anthony deal, better to do Val, Carroll, Bebe, Bruno & #23 for Melo, O'Quinn and CHI 2nd round pick then just pick a shooter in the second round.
Poeltl isn't ready? Why? He is. Take advantage of his cheap contract inside of rotting him on the bench.
You need to re-read the post. It's Cojo and Powell for 11 and Sessions (salary reasons). It gives them immediate impact and improves the guard positiond immediately.
Luckily there's 3 offensive powers on the roster for scoring. The shooters add more offensive fire power. Wright can lead the second unit and create as well. If we draft Semi Ojeleye he is a pretty good scorer too. There's enough, among two top ten scorers, Lowry and multiple advanced three point specialists.
Sessions matches salary. I'm giving up at maximum Carroll and Val (maybe Cojo if O Quinn is included). Bebe and Bruno have great potential and Melo has zero value.
The addition of shooting, length, athleticism, and ball handling is needed in our line up. One to protect the perimeter against high three point shooting teams and secondly spread the floor against doubles. Bebe and Bruno fit great as they can switch, have great defensive potential, and are cheap.
Getting Melo instead of re-signing Ibaka/Tucker makes the trade kicker easier to swallow.
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Yeah Bebe and Bruno have ZERO value. Those guys probably don't even crack an NBA rotation in their entire career.
Trade Carroll, JV, Bebe, Bruno and #23 for Melo, O'Quinn and a second.
Trade Cojo and protected 2018 1st for Holmes.
Resign Lowry to a DeRozan deal
Resign Ibaka, 4yrs/$90M
Resign Tucker cheap if you can. 3yrs/$21M. If not, Snell to the MLE
Sign Carter, vets min
Lowry/Wright/Vanvleet
DeRozan/Powell/Carter
Melo/Tucker or Snell/Carter
Ibaka/Holmes/Siakam
O'Quinn/Poeltl
Competitive team, controllable contracts, enough young pieces in case we need to rebuild. You'll pay a bit of tax this year but Melo is likely off the books next year. Push comes to shove, you can sell Lowry, Ibaka and DD the following year and rebuild.
