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Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans?

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Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans? 

Post#1 » by TheDunc » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:52 pm

Ive been quite impressed with the way he plays. The only big weakness i see in his game right now is his shot. Hes got a very good first shot, he plays good solid D. Hes very athletic and he tries to get to the rim. I like the future combo of DD and Weems. They also seem to get alot out there. They kind of remind me of a very poor version of Vince and Tmac. Im not comparing weems to Tmac. But the duo reminds me of young versions of them because there both raw and very athletic guys. Now granted i dont see weems making too much of an impact to warrant being a starter.

I think we should lock up weems for the next 3 years. He wont cost much to the raptors and i dont think he hinders DD's development because they seem to be good buddies. Ive said since the beginning of the preseason that weems should get more minutes, if he doesnt take too many jumpshots then i think he becomes more valuable then marco.
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Post#2 » by EventHorizon » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:57 pm

He is still young so he should get better. My strategy would be to keep him and mold him into a defensive specialist with slashing abilities. So yes. But if trade comes a long where you get higher than fair value for him you go ahead and trade him.
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Post#3 » by AbC? » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:58 pm

He's like the guard version of Big Sexy. I would try to keep him on the cheap though.
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Post#4 » by C3SIUM » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:58 pm

Ya I'd be happy to lock him up at a nice price. Hopefully we get Hoopla back to work on his shot
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Post#5 » by StopitLeo » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:04 pm

Definitely. Reminds me of Gerald Wallace a bit with how athletic and long he is. He'd be great to have developing with Demar.
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Re: Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans? 

Post#6 » by HighOctane » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:08 pm

If he doesn't shoot I'm all for having him. He's put up solid numbers with the limited numbers he has and his athleticism is only a plus to our line up. Also, Joey Graham now stays in my heart forever.
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Re: Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans? 

Post#7 » by There There » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:12 pm

And the deification of Sonny begins.

That said, i've wanted to see him given a shot to earn Wright's minutes for some time now. Whether he has any future with this team or not, he's more athletic than Wright, longer than Wright, quicker than Wright and probably not as useless on the offensive end as Wright, as long as he limits the number of jumpers and focuses his O around running the break and slashing to the basket.

As long as Sonny understands that his role should be defending and getting on the boards, which again because of his length and athleticism I think he can excel at, then we should keep running him out there instead of Antoine.
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Re: Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans? 

Post#8 » by Korr » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:20 pm

He's better than Wright, but let's not get carried away here.

This board has a strange obsession with hyping up scrubs.
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Post#9 » by MrBojangelz71 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:21 pm

I would like to see him stick with us for many reasons:

- This could practically be considered his rookie season. He only played in 28 minutes of NBA ball last year. He's young, athletic and very raw. Lots of room for growth.

- Demar and Sonny are very good friends by the looks of it. Would be nice to keep them together.

- Being as athletic as Demar, possibly even more athletic, he can push him in practices.

- Could turn into a very solid defender if he sets his mind to it. Has all the qualities that a defender at the 2 spot needs to be successful.

-He's got great hops, best on our team I think.

We'll see how he plays with the extra time given to him. Lets see if he can bring a consistent effort night in, night out. If so, he would be a great pickup for a 3year/ 1.5mil per season.

If you think about, getting Amir and Weems was a solid pickup for us considering we gave up 2 players that were never going to see the floor with us.
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Post#10 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:24 pm

He's already more skilled than Joey, but I think there's serious questions about his focus on the court.
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Post#11 » by SaveTheHens » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:27 pm

I think he's in the same boat as Wright, Belli in terms of future with this team. Whichever guy makes the biggest impact this year will probably be in BC's plan for the future.
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Post#12 » by dagger » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:27 pm

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Ive been quite impressed with the way he plays. The only big weakness i see in his game right now is his shot. Hes got a very good first shot, he plays good solid D. Hes very athletic and he tries to get to the rim. I like the future combo of DD and Weems. They also seem to get alot out there. They kind of remind me of a very poor version of Vince and Tmac. Im not comparing weems to Tmac. But the duo reminds me of young versions of them because there both raw and very athletic guys. Now granted i dont see weems making too much of an impact to warrant being a starter.

I think we should lock up weems for the next 3 years. He wont cost much to the raptors and i dont think he hinders DD's development because they seem to be good buddies. Ive said since the beginning of the preseason that weems should get more minutes, if he doesnt take too many jumpshots then i think he becomes more valuable then marco.



You can't "lock him up". He's on the second year of a minimum wage contract. He can't be extended. After this year, the team has an option on him for a third, minimum wage season.
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Post#13 » by Kabookalu » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:28 pm

It's worth to keep him around to see how he pans out in the future, but you shouldn't go out of your way just to keep him either, the only move he has in the halfcourt is a decent midrange jumper. He'd be a good hustle player off the bench and a guy you look out for in the open court thanks to his athleticism.
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Post#14 » by inrapscity » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:33 pm

he's young and cheap and has potential. not star potential but the potential to be what we'd hope joeyg to be.
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Post#15 » by redjediknight » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:38 pm

I think that he is included in the Raps future--but coming off the bench. He is a definite upgrade of Graham (and they actually look very similar in a way), and a way better player and teammate than Wright.
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Post#16 » by YogiStewart » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:38 pm

its not his shot that scares me. its his shot selection. yesterday was his smartest game yet.
if he plays anywhere near how he plays yesterday, the guy's a great find.
starter? actually, its debatable. right now, i would cautiously have him starting over DD.
my deification of Weems? no. its just that Toronto doesn't have any better option at the 3.
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Post#17 » by There There » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:00 pm

YogiStewart wrote:its not his shot that scares me. its his shot selection. yesterday was his smartest game yet.
if he plays anywhere near how he plays yesterday, the guy's a great find.
starter? actually, its debatable. right now, i would cautiously have him starting over DD.
my deification of Weems? no. its just that Toronto doesn't have any better option at the 3.


That's not deification; that is the great hope of finding a viable option not named Antoine Wright :)

I agree though that he played with more focus yesterday than we've seen from him thus far. Perhaps getting PT in non-garbage time gave him some additional incentive to play within himself on the offensive end and not force the shots we previously saw.

His potential to be a presence on the defensive end and getting boards intrigues me; i'd hate to see him waste that because of Hump syndrome on the offensive end.
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Post#18 » by Miles Boyer » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:07 pm

Sonny is way better than Antoine Wright (I'll call out the team but I may be one of its worst players), and he's arguably playing better than Bellinelli right now. As many have mentioned, it's his shot selection and focus that are concerns with him. If that could be harnessed, he could be a very good role player because he brings the athleticism and aggressiveness, and speed (on both ends) that this team lacks with many other players.
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Post#19 » by J Dilla » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:21 pm

I can't wait to see you guys frustrated with him the next game he plays. If you think Antoine takes bad shots, Weems does it worse. All of our SGs take terrible shots except DeRozan. Now Weems is young and I like his confidence, but he shoots so much that he'll probably shoot us out of a game. If the season is slipping away, I'm all for developing him and giving him the freedom to shoot, but right now we need to become an elite team.
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Re: Should Sonny Weems be in the raptors future plans? 

Post#20 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:41 pm

He is cheap and serviceable.
Performing at this level on that contract is great.

However the second he gets paid big boy money without a massive improvement he becomes less useful.

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