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Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jazz (5-6)

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Post#1 Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jazz (5
Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:32 pm by FJS

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- Asik - Patterson - Parsons - Harden - Lin

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- Jefferson - Favors - Millsap - Foye - Williams

KEY PLAYERS FROM THE BENCH
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- Smith - Morris - Aldrich - Douglas - Delfino

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- Williams - Hayward - Tinsley - Kanter - Carroll
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Post#2 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:39 pm by FJS

TEAMS LEADERS:

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J. Harden
PPG:26.0
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O. Asik
RPG:12.8 BPG: 1.1
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J. Lin
APG: 7.0SPG: 2.2
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P. Millsap
PPG:15.7
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A. Jefferson
RPG: 11.6
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Mo Williams
APG: 6.9 SPG:1.2
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D. Favors
BPG:2.2
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Post#3 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:41 pm by FJS

Houston plays tonight vs Lakers.
We hope they will be tired tomorrow, because, altough we are a better team at home, we are playing really bad, and we are only winning vs teams who are a mess.
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Post#4 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:06 pm by SoCalJazzFan

I realize that this was the starting lineup vs the Wizards, but it is a mess. Who in their right mind would force a PF to play out of position as a SF, and keep, arguably, three good SFs on the bench instead??

At what point do we give up on the hopes we had for this team just a few weeks ago, and start hoping that the team goes into a tailspin that will force management to get rid of Corbin?? Until very recently, I was willing to give Corbin the benefit of the doubt, but he is proving not worthy of such consideration.
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Post#5 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:00 pm by StocktonShorts

SoCalJazzFan wrote:I realize that this was the starting lineup vs the Wizards, but it is a mess. Who in their right mind would force a PF to play out of position as a SF, and keep, arguably, three good SFs on the bench instead??

At what point do we give up on the hopes we had for this team just a few weeks ago, and start hoping that the team goes into a tailspin that will force management to get rid of Corbin?? Until very recently, I was willing to give Corbin the benefit of the doubt, but he is proving not worthy of such consideration.


What I'm hoping for is that management makes Corbin's job easier by trading away some players. Honestly I think that's what is hurting this team right now: Corbin has too many decent options, and it's making him look like he doesn't know what he's doing. Every move he makes can be second-guessed. He may truly not know what he's doing, but I don't think the Front Office has helped him very much with the moves they've made.
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Post#6 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:18 pm by The59Sound

This lineup is a joke. I wish it wasn't real.
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Post#7 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:10 am by Jazzfan12

Hopefully Houston is tired because they're a nightmare matchup with Harden's pick-and-roll game and Asik's defense and size.
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Post#8 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:19 pm by DiscoLives4ever

I think the biggest problem with the big lineup last game was that there were no facilitators. Foye and Mo are both scorers, and so there was nobody to get the offense going. Defensively they did pretty well, and a lot of the early rebounding disparity was due to long shots causing long rebounds.
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Post#9 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:56 pm by FJS

Yes, Hayward or Tinsley have to be in the lineup.
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Post#10 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:55 pm by DiscoLives4ever

FJS wrote:Yes, Hayward or Tinsley have to be in the lineup.


I would love to start with Mo/Hayward/Millsap/Favors/Jefferson because it gives a huge amount of flexibility in who to bring in off the bench.

Do we need more speed/defense? Bring in Marvin for whichever of the three bigs is playing the worst. Do we need more shooting? Bring in Foye for anybody but Mo who is playing poorly. Is Jefferson or Favors sucking it up? Bring in Kanter.

This lineup would put our 5 most talented players in from the start, give us facilitating from Gordon, fast tempo from Mo, scoring from any of Mo/Hayward/Big Al/Millsap, and Favors anchoring the defense. The only big weakness would be faster SFs.
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Post#11 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:41 pm by HolyToledo12

I hate Big Al starting but hate even more Foye starting. Does Corbin understand that 2/5 (40%) of his starting lineup have 2 players that are bottom 10% ability in defense in the NBA. Might as well start Tinsley and Murphy and play no defense whatsoever. This is an idioitic starting lineup by Corbin! Starting lineup should be:

PG Mo Foye Tinsley Watson
SG Hayward Burks Foye
C Favors Big Al Kanter
PF Millsap Favors Evans
SF Marvin Hayward Carroll
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Post#12 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:18 pm by StocktonShorts

I could be wrong but I think you're better defensively with Al and Favors than with Millsap and Favors.
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Post#13 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:29 pm by FJS

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/55309 ... h.html.csp

Corbin likely to start again the big lineup
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Post#14 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-5) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:44 pm by outerspacefella

SoCalJazzFan wrote:... it is a mess. Who in their right mind would force a PF to play out of position as a SF, and keep, arguably, three good SFs on the bench instead??

Tyrone Corbin.
I just want a starting lineup consistent of a PG, a SG, a SF, a PF and a C... is that too much to ask for coach? :roll:
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Post#15 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:49 pm by outerspacefella

HolyToledo12 wrote:I hate Big Al starting ...

"HATE" to start the only proven go to dude in the entire roster? :confused:
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Post#16 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:55 pm by outerspacefella

Coach want an energetic start? Just throw Favors and Carroll with other 3 dudes out there.

My call would be Mo, Hayward, Carroll, Favors, Jefferson with Randy, Burks, Marvin, Millsap, Kanter as the second lineup. Tinsley here and there to put the ball where it has to be in some game situations.
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Post#17 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:00 pm by seejaydeja

Harden got the flu...
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Post#18 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:15 pm by seejaydeja

God damnit Favors
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Post#19 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:23 pm by Inigo Montoya

bad PvR defense left favors exposed when he came to help causing him to foul. now he's on the bench for foul trouble. our PnR defense sucks.
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Post#20 Re: Game 12: Houston Rockets (4-6) @ Utah Jaz
Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:24 pm by StocktonShorts

seejaydeja wrote:God damnit Favors


Second call was crap, but he has to be more careful.
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