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CJ Miles Could Sign With Lakers 

Post#1 » by Draper » Wed Aug 1, 2012 6:54 am

Lakers fan coming in peace:

WT reporting that CJ Miles could sign with the Lakers.

Just wanted to get Jazz fans' perspectives on him. How do you think he'd do playing a backup role to Kobe? Likely playing most of his minutes along side Nash or Steve Blake. Statistically not a great shooter but do you think he'd fare better getting spot up looks? How's his defense been of late? Can he play (defend) the 3?
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Post#2 » by QuantumMacgyver » Wed Aug 1, 2012 8:51 am

Pros:
Sure likes to shoot.
Great at shooting
Always find a shot he likes
Can shoot from anywhere on the floor

Cons:
Misses everything he shoots
Lacks the ability to MAKE the shots he takes
Never found a shot he didn't like
Can't MAKE a shot from anywhere on the floor.


CJ Miles is a lot like Kobe actually, in that CJ is also a Jazz killer.

Sorry to say this, but if the Lakers do sign CJ you are gonna hate the kid. (Also, I bumped into him at the Sandbar club in SLC and CJ was a Class A douchebag. So, he doesn't even have the "nice kid" thing going for him.)
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Post#3 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:21 am

Draper wrote:Lakers fan coming in peace:

WT reporting that CJ Miles could sign with the Lakers.

Just wanted to get Jazz fans' perspectives on him. How do you think he'd do playing a backup role to Kobe? Likely playing most of his minutes along side Nash or Steve Blake. Statistically not a great shooter but do you think he'd fare better getting spot up looks? How's his defense been of late? Can he play (defend) the 3?


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Bottom line is this:
Given the Lakers cap situation, I can understand the interest. You need a swingman who can score and defend who isn't Kobe, and can generally make a shot. What you need to know going into this is that CJ will be that guy once in 8-10 games. He is inconsistent to the extreme and that is the only consistent thing about him. Yes, he CAN make a shot. He's got a good form and release. But he doesn't make them usually. He misses open shots, makes stupid plays and takes bad shots, capable of playing great defense, but also does so in stretches of games and you can't plan on it. He'll soon revert to his old self and do what he usually does which is make dumb fouls, guard with his hands, run up to shooters and over commit, get to a wrong defensive stance that will make his man just blow by him, and will drive you CRAZY with STUPID AND 1 FOULS. I never looked up the stats on this but I'm sure he is among the league leaders in committing and 1 fouls.

Can he give you a few minutes off the bench? yes. But it may cost you. You're trying to make a run for a championship. You can't afford a CJ moment deep in the playoffs. If you sign him, be ready to see plenty of 1-8 or 2-11 or 2-13 from the field kind of games.

Of course, he played for the Jazz who gave him 7 years of development. It only stands to reason and makes sense that now he will go to a new team and finally figure it out...
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Post#4 » by DelaneyRudd » Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:29 am

CJ is a guy who you will see 15 floor minutes and be like, WHY ISN'T HE A STAR!. But then there's the rest of the time.

Good luck in your future endeavors CJ, you never went to college so I consider you a graduate of Jazz University; but I don't expect more than hanging around the NBA now. He could be a real star in Europe. Get Polish citizenship and lead them to Bronze.
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Post#5 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:43 am

He can't be a star in Europe IMO, at least not at the top levels. You still need to make shots in Europe, and the zone defense is played much more over there and it doesn't have limitations like it has in the NBA. No disrespect for CJ the person, but CJ the player is a low BBIQ player, and I think he will encounter many difficulties in Europe. It is not a bunch of chumps playing there anymore. It is not a bunch of white guys who can't play and jump. They still can't jump, but they can play :wink:
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Post#6 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed Aug 1, 2012 2:02 pm

CJ miles would be great for the Lakers, with Nashs passing ability and kobe, pau and bynum taking all the defenses attention he would just be the three dagger Derek Fisher used to be for you. He could also drive.

Dont forget that CJ has played his entire career in the princeton offense so with the new laker offense he should be way ahead of the curve.

Lakers should lock him up for the long haul for as close to max as possible.
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Post#7 » by The59Sound » Wed Aug 1, 2012 2:45 pm

$10 million athleticism, $500 basketball IQ.
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Post#8 » by HolyToledo » Wed Aug 1, 2012 2:50 pm

He is very good when he takes the ball to the hoop. He is a chucker from 3 but with Kobe on the team then maybe he defers and stops chucking it from distance. Good at home and terrible on the road, why no one knows. His basketball IQ is non-existent. That being said, I think he helps the Lakers bench so long as he doesnt play more than 15-20 min per game.
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Post#9 » by Draper » Wed Aug 1, 2012 3:00 pm

Thanks guys. Appreciate the responses. Unfortunately our options at backup SG are limited with the remaining pool of free agents. We'll see how it plays out.
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Post#10 » by BarneyGumble » Wed Aug 1, 2012 4:32 pm

He's the type of guy who'd do a commercial, and when you hold up the cue cards, he'd give you that deer in the headlight look. The same deer in the headlight look he gives when he hears "defense" or "cut" or "hustle" or "DONT SHOOT THE BALL"
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Post#11 » by Paper Face » Wed Aug 1, 2012 5:05 pm

Do you like rookies who show flashes of promise intermittently throughout the season, but otherwise squander leads and/or pout on the pine? If so, you are in for a treat because CJ delivers this very formula every year without fail.
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Post#12 » by Beethoven » Wed Aug 1, 2012 7:28 pm

damn guys..nice feedback. Im not sure I want CJ anymore!!
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Post#13 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Wed Aug 1, 2012 10:00 pm

The59Sound wrote:$10 million athleticism, $500 basketball IQ.

That's probably the greatest analogy of CJ's game I've ever seen.

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Post#14 » by Nate505 » Thu Aug 2, 2012 1:44 am

When CJ is on it's great. But like everyone else and their mother said, that doesn't happen that often.

My biggest complaint about him is that it feels like he has the "I'm so much better/athletic than everyone else on the court that I'll just take every shot and use my superior skills to dominate" attitude. That may have worked well in high school for him but in the NBA it's not true. The most frustrating thing is that he's been in the league for a while now and still hasn't figured it out.
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Post#15 » by Josephpaul » Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:10 am

With some mike brown disicpilne this can work .
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Post#16 » by Fido » Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:13 am

Jerry Sloan discipline didn't work. Good luck with Mike Brown.
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Post#17 » by Josephpaul » Thu Aug 2, 2012 7:03 am

Fido wrote:Jerry Sloan discipline didn't work. Good luck with Mike Brown.

Ah that's right. :evil:
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Post#18 » by finnegan » Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:13 pm

Fido wrote:Jerry Sloan discipline didn't work. Good luck with Mike Brown.


Unless you are talking about CJ taking too many shots, I am not sure what discipline would need to be exercised over CJ. He seems to be a fairly decent citizen.

On another note, it is a little shocking how a team can go from high interest in a player (Dallas) to no interest at all in just a short few years. Maybe it is a cap issue for Dallas, but it is suprising that they have no interest in CJ considering they tried to steal him away a few years ago.
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Post#19 » by DelaneyRudd » Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:41 pm

Do you mean OKC?
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Post#20 » by Fido » Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:37 pm

finnegan wrote:
Fido wrote:Jerry Sloan discipline didn't work. Good luck with Mike Brown.


Unless you are talking about CJ taking too many shots, I am not sure what discipline would need to be exercised over CJ. He seems to be a fairly decent citizen.

On another note, it is a little shocking how a team can go from high interest in a player (Dallas) to no interest at all in just a short few years. Maybe it is a cap issue for Dallas, but it is suprising that they have no interest in CJ considering they tried to steal him away a few years ago.

Exactly--the discipline to take good shots within the offense. Behavior issues are not a problem with CJ.

CJ's options are evaporating. There are a few teams who only have 12 players under contract currently but most have more than that. I'm not sure that CJ is really at the top of team's list for a target--especially for more than a minimum contract or something like that. Both Dallas and OKC have pretty full rosters. Unless a trade shakes some rosters up and creates some needs I'm not sure what is going to work out especially if he wants the money he was making or more.

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