My faith in Exum has been healed, praise the Lord

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Post#141 » by Rastas » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:34 pm

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Rastas wrote:Philly again asks if the Jazz want to trade your non NBA player and unwanted Exum for their unwanted Okafor.


Is Okafor willing to accept a backup role?


Pretty sure he knows he wont be starting on virtually any NBA squad until he improves his defence.

Still he is young and maybe teachable and at 6'11'' and 265lbs he would also have more opportunities to shine for the Jazz than current 76ers.
Just seems like a nice trade to help out both players into better situations.
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Post#142 » by erudite23 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:21 pm

Dante is a plus rotational player some nights and others he isn't good enough to be on the floor. I still believe he'll be a useful player and probably at least starting caliber, but right now there's no doubt that he's wildly inconsistent.

I'm excited for next year and the summer.
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Post#143 » by Mutangclan » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:00 pm

Rastas wrote:Philly again asks if the Jazz want to trade your non NBA player and unwanted Exum for their unwanted Okafor.


Philly wants two 6'6 Australian rookie guard/wings on its team that aren't great shooters/scorers??? Whaaaa? :rolleyes:

CP3 is the master of all PGs in the league, and Dante just can't keep up and if CP3 gets 25 against that group yesterday, he'll get 35 with Dante spending time on him. We need Jingles/Rodney on the court with Gordo/George, we can't afford to experiment with Dante in the game. Not this series. Well, not next one either.
Dante got to grow some this season, thats good. I still look forward to his getting an offseason and then training camp. Next season should be when we really look at him.
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Post#144 » by Broncos 1 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:14 pm

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Rastas wrote:Philly again asks if the Jazz want to trade your non NBA player and unwanted Exum for their unwanted Okafor.


Philly wants two 6'6 Australian rookie guard/wings on its team that aren't great shooters/scorers??? Whaaaa? :rolleyes:

CP3 is the master of all PGs in the league, and Dante just can't keep up and if CP3 gets 25 against that group yesterday, he'll get 35 with Dante spending time on him. We need Jingles/Rodney on the court with Gordo/George, we can't afford to experiment with Dante in the game. Not this series. Well, not next one either.
Dante got to grow some this season, thats good. I still look forward to his getting an offseason and then training camp. Next season should be when we really look at him.
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Post#145 » by Broncos 1 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:22 pm

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Rastas wrote:Philly again asks if the Jazz want to trade your non NBA player and unwanted Exum for their unwanted Okafor.


Philly wants two 6'6 Australian rookie guard/wings on its team that aren't great shooters/scorers??? Whaaaa? :rolleyes:

CP3 is the master of all PGs in the league, and Dante just can't keep up and if CP3 gets 25 against that group yesterday, he'll get 35 with Dante spending time on him. We need Jingles/Rodney on the court with Gordo/George, we can't afford to experiment with Dante in the game. Not this series. Well, not next one either.
Dante got to grow some this season, thats good. I still look forward to his getting an offseason and then training camp. Next season should be when we really look at him.

I don't believe that. Dante is as good as defender as the others on the court yesterday. Plus he has a chance to be a great player with this speed and athleticism. He has more potential, speed and athleticism than anyone else on the jazz team. I admit he has plenty to work to do on his game. But he is willing to put in the work and he has the right attitude.
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Post#146 » by Broncos 1 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:28 pm

Shelvin mack??? They should be using dante instead of mack. For Dantes career much better for him to go to 76ers now. It won't happen though. Could u imagine ben, dante, embiid and saric for years to come. How good would that be!! It was a great game by the jazz yesterday. I congratulate them. Big win!
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Post#147 » by Mutangclan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:53 pm

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Rastas wrote:Philly again asks if the Jazz want to trade your non NBA player and unwanted Exum for their unwanted Okafor.


Philly wants two 6'6 Australian rookie guard/wings on its team that aren't great shooters/scorers??? Whaaaa? :rolleyes:

CP3 is the master of all PGs in the league, and Dante just can't keep up and if CP3 gets 25 against that group yesterday, he'll get 35 with Dante spending time on him. We need Jingles/Rodney on the court with Gordo/George, we can't afford to experiment with Dante in the game. Not this series. Well, not next one either.
Dante got to grow some this season, thats good. I still look forward to his getting an offseason and then training camp. Next season should be when we really look at him.

I don't believe that. Dante is as good as defender as the others on the court yesterday. Plus he has a chance to be a great player with this speed and athleticism. He has more potential, speed and athleticism than anyone else on the jazz team. I admit he has plenty to work to do on his game. But he is willing to put in the work and he has the right attitude.


Sure he is. Individually. Except the problem against a team like the Clippers is you have to be a good team defender with all their lobs and exploiting of mistakes. Dante is not there yet. He's also a liability on the other end.

He sure does. And he also has plenty of time to get there, no need to let him learn in the playoffs. He's a baby still.

Dante has more potential than Hayward? Rudy? George Hill? Mmmmmmmm

People need to stop rushing Dante. He's learning plenty right there from his seat on the bench. What is he, 20? 21? Kids got 15 years ahead of him. Winning matters more than anything right now......especially with free agency approaching this team.
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Post#148 » by BarneyGumble » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:55 pm

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Dante has more potential than Hayward? Rudy? George Hill? Mmmmmmmm

People need to stop rushing Dante. He's learning plenty right there from his seat on the bench. What is he, 20? 21? Kids got 15 years ahead of him. Winning matters more than anything right now......especially with free agency approaching this team.


You need to take the things Broncos1 says with a grain of salt. He drinks the Exum Kool-Aid like no other...
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Post#149 » by Broncos 1 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:09 pm

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Mutangclan wrote:
Dante has more potential than Hayward? Rudy? George Hill? Mmmmmmmm

People need to stop rushing Dante. He's learning plenty right there from his seat on the bench. What is he, 20? 21? Kids got 15 years ahead of him. Winning matters more than anything right now......especially with free agency approaching this team.


You need to take the things Broncos1 says with a grain of salt. He drinks the Exum Kool-Aid like no other...
He has more potential than hill is that a joke. Hill is better now. Hill is 31 exum is 21. He has never had an offseason to work on things. Jumpshot number 1 along with strength. He's going to get stronger, faster and a better vertical the stronger he gets. U can't teach speed and athleticism. No kool-aid speaking the truth. Well when he leaves u won't be saying that. Hayward at the same age i would take dante.
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Post#150 » by EmperorLocky » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:27 am

I'm big on Exum, as well as all the Aussies in the league, and would love to see him on court but that's my heart and not my head. I'm big on him next year though and would put him down as a front runner for MIP next season. Hoping the post season sitting on the bench will only fuel and motivate him more. We've all seen the glimpses just needs to put it all together.

Whilst he can be great in defense at times he's been turned inside out by the leagues better PGs. He'll get there though and next season will be it.
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Post#151 » by Mutangclan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:32 pm

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BarneyGumble wrote:
Mutangclan wrote:
Dante has more potential than Hayward? Rudy? George Hill? Mmmmmmmm

People need to stop rushing Dante. He's learning plenty right there from his seat on the bench. What is he, 20? 21? Kids got 15 years ahead of him. Winning matters more than anything right now......especially with free agency approaching this team.


You need to take the things Broncos1 says with a grain of salt. He drinks the Exum Kool-Aid like no other...
He has more potential than hill is that a joke. Hill is better now. Hill is 31 exum is 21. He has never had an offseason to work on things. Jumpshot number 1 along with strength. He's going to get stronger, faster and a better vertical the stronger he gets. U can't teach speed and athleticism. No kool-aid speaking the truth. Well when he leaves u won't be saying that. Hayward at the same age i would take dante.


Exactly. George Hill has shown it, proved it. You're banking on potential whilst George has already shown what you only are hoping for.

And yes, thats why I have said I can't wait for the offseason for Dante, numerous times. He probably will get faster and I'm sure stronger. He already has.

And so you believe Dante will be an all star and will eventually statistically will have a season of pts/rebs/ast and -to's that only rivals Durant like Hayward did this year? You are planning on Dante being an all star? Because had you taken Dante over Hayward at 21, you would've been fired: Hayward has gone onto great things. All NBA things. There's only hope for Dante.....and you think he'll be better than Hayward is now? Whew.....well ok. I sure hope you're right.
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Post#152 » by Daddy 801 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:51 pm

At this point I don't think we should even bother comparing X to Hill. The Jazz clearly see X as more of a 2 at this point. We should be worried about if X can be better than Burks(I think he can which pains me to say).

I am hoping X can sorta do what Patrick Beverly does for Houston. Be a dominant defense specialist and hit open 3's and drive when he gets the ball with space. Plus always count on that lob to Rudy!

I think the Jazz move Burks to make room for Ingles salary wise and to give Dante the backup PG/SG 6th man role we all assumed Burks could fill but has not been able to do so.
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Post#153 » by Mutangclan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:36 pm

Daddy 801 wrote:At this point I don't think we should even bother comparing X to Hill. The Jazz clearly see X as more of a 2 at this point. We should be worried about if X can be better than Burks(I think he can which pains me to say).

I am hoping X can sorta do what Patrick Beverly does for Houston. Be a dominant defense specialist and hit open 3's and drive when he gets the ball with space. Plus always count on that lob to Rudy!

I think the Jazz move Burks to make room for Ingles salary wise and to give Dante the backup PG/SG 6th man role we all assumed Burks could fill but has not been able to do so.


Interesting......I could see that too. And it also pains me to say it, because I really think Alec is 10x better than almost everyone thinks. Most of me hopes he doesn't go anywhere, so that he can have a full offseason too, and come back FINALLY 100% to start a season, because I think he would move himself right back into a 6th man of the year type of player. I think like Fav, he's constantly trying to come back, get back to what he was. 100%, I think he's the most lethal on the team.

BUT, Jingles has been AWESOME. Some players on this team will have to go to keep Jingles and a new contract. I sure hope it's not Alec, but at this point, it is looking likely.

I also think that Dante is still be groomed, slowly, to be a PG on this team. To take over, as it were, eventually. Just right now he's learning both guard spots so that he can get on the court. But I see Dante has a PG for sure. Maybe full-time starting PG 2018-19
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Post#154 » by Broncos 1 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:07 pm

Daddy 801 wrote:At this point I don't think we should even bother comparing X to Hill. The Jazz clearly see X as more of a 2 at this point. We should be worried about if X can be better than Burks(I think he can which pains me to say).

I am hoping X can sorta do what Patrick Beverly does for Houston. Be a dominant defense specialist and hit open 3's and drive when he gets the ball with space. Plus always count on that lob to Rudy!

I think the Jazz move Burks to make room for Ingles salary wise and to give Dante the backup PG/SG 6th man role we all assumed Burks could fill but has not been able to do so.
Patrick Beverly. That is not a good comparison. I like Beverly your right he's a hussle player, great defender and 3 point shooter. But exum is so much more than that. U guys have to think with his speed and athleticism he could become a star. To become Beverly is definitely underating exum and his potential and gifts.
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Post#155 » by tleikheen » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:32 pm

Wonder what Exum is thinking ..seeing Mack go out there for the backup PG minutes and seeing Burks in street clothes because Neto is back at backup PG as well. His game is built on speed and uptempo and Jazz are slowing down even more cementing him at the end of the bench unlikely to see any playing time in these playoffs.If the Jazz get knocked out 1st round because Goberts injured and didn't heal in time does Exum wonder about playing with his best friend Ben Simmons where they can use a PG.That's got to look better than playing behind GHill and a couple career backups.
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Post#156 » by Broncos 1 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:03 pm

tleikheen wrote:Wonder what Exum is thinking ..seeing Mack go out there for the backup PG minutes and seeing Burks in street clothesplbecause Neto is back at backup PG as well. His game is built on speed and uptempo and Jazz are slowing down even more cementing him at the end of the bench unlikely to see any playing time in these playoffs.If the Jazz get knocked out 1st round because Goberts injured and didn't heal in time does Exum wonder about playing with his best friend Ben Simmons where they can use a PG.That's got to look better than playing behind GHill and a couple career backups.
You'll have to wait 1 more year. But that is a very likely outcome dante to 76ers
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Post#157 » by RGLJ » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:50 am

Yeah, Exum just had to hang around another year, work on his game and then get the hell away from Snyder. But watch the Jazz match any offers during RFA and keep Dante sitting on the bench a few years more as Snyder's plaything.
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Post#158 » by Mutangclan » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:52 pm

RGLJ wrote:Yeah, Exum just had to hang around another year, work on his game and then get the hell away from Snyder. But watch the Jazz match any offers during RFA and keep Dante sitting on the bench a few years more as Snyder's plaything.


Man, you guys act like Dante has shown something! Why is it always everyone else's fault that Dante isn't up to par, and not Dante's? Can you remember any lotto pick in the past forever that has come out with so little offensive ability??
Someone up there said that Patrick Beverley was a slap in the face to Dante yet Beverley is 10x the defender, a better 3pt shooter and has tons more offensive skill.
Plenty of athletes have come and gone, you need a TON more than quickness and athleticism....which btw, I'm not sure where all thats coming from anyway.
Funny man, as if it's Snyders fault.
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Post#159 » by Broncos 1 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:08 am

Mutangclan wrote:
RGLJ wrote:Yeah, Exum just had to hang around another year, work on his game and then get the hell away from Snyder. But watch the Jazz match any offers during RFA and keep Dante sitting on the bench a few years more as Snyder's plaything.


Man, you guys act like Dante has shown something! Why is it always everyone else's fault that Dante isn't up to par, and not Dante's? Can you remember any lotto pick in the past forever that has come out with so little offensive ability??
Someone up there said that Patrick Beverley was a slap in the face to Dante yet Beverley is 10x the defender, a better 3pt shooter and has tons more offensive skill.
Plenty of athletes have come and gone, you need a TON more than quickness and athleticism....which btw, I'm not sure where all thats coming from anyway.
Funny man, as if it's Snyders fault.
That's your opinion. Go and max out hill for 4 years and keep neto as your backup. So u should be happy for dante to be traded? So would i to the 76ers
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Post#160 » by RGLJ » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:44 am

I actually don't think Dante is great, nor even that good st this stage. Would I play him over Mack? Hell yes. Do I think Snyder doesn't let him play or learn the pg position? Hell yes do I think Snyder treys him different? Hell yes. Do I think the Jazz slow down methodical style and being directed to go sit in the corner and shoot 3's (dante's worst current skill) suits Exum's game? Hell no. Do I think regardless of how good or bad Exum is he is better off on another team and away from Snyder? Hell yeah.

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