2016 Offseason Part 2

[spearsy23]

16-12 is on pace for 47 wins without Durant, Serge, Steven, and Roberson for significant portions and with Kanter, Dion, and Singler playing 30 minutes per game.

Jesus, we could win 55 when you look at it like that.

I'm going 45-50, but 50 is doable w/ health. They can be the 4 seed really. I'm shocked people think they'll miss the playoffs.

SRS had us as a 59 win team last year, we'll probably be better in close games when we are running pick and roll with Russ rather than straight iso with Durant. No more Dion, likely no more Singler or at least less, no foyer. Improvement from Cam, Steven, Dipo, and hopefully Roberson. I'd be somewhat disappointed if this team didn't win 50 games, unless it's because Donovan screws around with rotations again all year.

[oken]

One issue I always had with efficiency stats was they never included the "vague" stats like charges taken or Russells (blocks that are claimed by defense instead of out-of-bounds or claimed back by offense). Here is a super stat that includes "everything" called Dredge. I like this stat because if you check Ersan's Dredge stats throughout years (except his injury year 2014) and compare it with Ibaka's you'll see some interesting evaluations.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2016/07/26/introducing-dredge-a-play-by-play-derived-metric/

As a note of all the 3020 blocks of his career Tim "the mighty BBIQ" Duncan has only 15 goaltending violations in his whole career! 15!! That's what Dwight Howard does in a single All-Star game!

[Fam1019]

Why does everyone have Portland ranked higher then us. Portland basically has Lillard, and Cj with a bunch of role players... Okc has the better pg in Westbrook plus oladipo and Adams with role players. Even if I wasn't an Okc fan I would still put my money on Okc finishing with a better record that Portland. Another thing, can people stop with that Harden trade already? Do these people not realize we got Adams and Abrines in the trade? If I had to choose one player to have on my Okc out of Adams or Harden, I would choose Adams every single time. Some people just don't have any clue before they speak, or maybe they just like to hear the nonsense that comes out of their mouth. Oh, and we sold high on Ibaka and bought low on Oladipo.. Buy low, Sell high, it's the American way, just ask Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

[Andre Roberstan]

Why does everyone have Portland ranked higher then us. Portland basically has Lillard, and Cj with a bunch of role players... Okc has the better pg in Westbrook plus oladipo and Adams with role players. Even if I wasn't an Okc fan I would still put my money on Okc finishing with a better record that Portland. Another thing, can people stop with that Harden trade already? Do these people not realize we got Adams and Abrines in the trade? If I had to choose one player to have on my Okc out of Adams or Harden, I would choose Adams every single time. Some people just don't have any clue before they speak, or maybe they just like to hear the nonsense that comes out of their mouth. Oh, and we sold high on Ibaka and bought low on Oladipo.. Buy low, Sell high, it's the American way, just ask Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

It's almost like people are allowed to have different opinions or something

[oken]

Why does everyone have Portland ranked higher then us. Portland basically has Lillard, and Cj with a bunch of role players... Okc has the better pg in Westbrook plus oladipo and Adams with role players. Even if I wasn't an Okc fan I would still put my money on Okc finishing with a better record that Portland. Another thing, can people stop with that Harden trade already? Do these people not realize we got Adams and Abrines in the trade? If I had to choose one player to have on my Okc out of Adams or Harden, I would choose Adams every single time. Some people just don't have any clue before they speak, or maybe they just like to hear the nonsense that comes out of their mouth. Oh, and we sold high on Ibaka and bought low on Oladipo.. Buy low, Sell high, it's the American way, just ask Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

Because of Paul Allen's:


It's hard to tell it to the people when you are a small market team with limited tv broadcast and people think your owners are cheap-ass because of harden trade. welcome to utah jazz after losing wes matthews and paul millsap to FA.

[bondom34]

Why does everyone have Portland ranked higher then us. Portland basically has Lillard, and Cj with a bunch of role players... Okc has the better pg in Westbrook plus oladipo and Adams with role players. Even if I wasn't an Okc fan I would still put my money on Okc finishing with a better record that Portland. Another thing, can people stop with that Harden trade already? Do these people not realize we got Adams and Abrines in the trade? If I had to choose one player to have on my Okc out of Adams or Harden, I would choose Adams every single time. Some people just don't have any clue before they speak, or maybe they just like to hear the nonsense that comes out of their mouth. Oh, and we sold high on Ibaka and bought low on Oladipo.. Buy low, Sell high, it's the American way, just ask Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

It's almost like people are allowed to have different opinions or something

Yeah, not bothered by that. Baffled as to people saying they'll miss the playoffs though. Got into that debate last night.

[Andre Roberstan]

Why does everyone have Portland ranked higher then us. Portland basically has Lillard, and Cj with a bunch of role players... Okc has the better pg in Westbrook plus oladipo and Adams with role players. Even if I wasn't an Okc fan I would still put my money on Okc finishing with a better record that Portland. Another thing, can people stop with that Harden trade already? Do these people not realize we got Adams and Abrines in the trade? If I had to choose one player to have on my Okc out of Adams or Harden, I would choose Adams every single time. Some people just don't have any clue before they speak, or maybe they just like to hear the nonsense that comes out of their mouth. Oh, and we sold high on Ibaka and bought low on Oladipo.. Buy low, Sell high, it's the American way, just ask Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

It's almost like people are allowed to have different opinions or something

Yeah, not bothered by that. Baffled as to people saying they'll miss the playoffs though. Got into that debate last night.

That's because Westbrook is a stat stuffer and they missed the playoffs when Durant got injured. Get with the program.

[Old Man Game]

One issue I always had with efficiency stats was they never included the "vague" stats like charges taken or Russells (blocks that are claimed by defense instead of out-of-bounds or claimed back by offense). Here is a super stat that includes "everything" called Dredge. I like this stat because if you check Ersan's Dredge stats throughout years (except his injury year 2014) and compare it with Ibaka's you'll see some interesting evaluations.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2016/07/26/introducing-dredge-a-play-by-play-derived-metric/

As a note of all the 3020 blocks of his career Tim "the mighty BBIQ" Duncan has only 15 goaltending violations in his whole career! 15!! That's what Dwight Howard does in a single All-Star game!

The new stat is pretty cool. I like using play by play data. Should give a more complete picture it would seem like.

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[Andre Roberstan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/russwest44/status/758371771137482752[/tweet]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN RUSSELL

[Andre Roberstan]

Katz and Moore Thunder chat.

https://audioboom.com/boos/4865210-locked-on-thunder-july-27-2016-cbs-sports-matt-moore

Really good.

[woosah]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/russwest44/status/758371771137482752[/tweet]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN RUSSELL

http://rwwhynotfoundation.org/

from time to time he posts that to shout out his foundation

[bondom34]

I learned today Durant's leaving was Russ's fault.

After 10 years, he still can't do anything but get blame deflected .

[Andre Roberstan]

Celtics just signed their draft picks after holding out for a long time. Can't trade them for 30 days, closed up their cap space.

Think that might bode well for us keeping Russ, especially considering how favorably Presti spoke about Brown.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Andrew Wiggins was signed by Cleveland before he was traded to Minny. Since rookies have a cap hold signing them doesn't eat up free space.

[spearsy23]

Andrew Wiggins was signed by Cleveland before he was traded to Minny. Since rookies have a cap hold signing them doesn't eat up free space.

They generally sign for slightly higher than the cap hold, so it does cost some space. But the important thing is that now they can't be trade until the 26th of August.

[NaturalThunder]

Celtics just signed their draft picks after holding out for a long time. Can't trade them for 30 days, closed up their cap space.

Think that might bode well for us keeping Russ, especially considering how favorably Presti spoke about Brown.

Didn't know Presti thought highly of Brown. I hated that pick for the Celtics. Brown just screams defensive specialist who, at his peak, MIGHT average around 16-18 PPG on pretty mediocre efficiency. I mean, yeah, if we could get both Brooklyn picks then Brown might be a nice building block along with Adams and Oladipo, but it wouldn't be a trade I liked very much. I'd prefer a deal with the Lakers that netted us Ingram and Russell to be honest if that'd even be possible. At least a young core of D'Angelo-Oladipo-Ingram-Adams is exciting. Throw in Sabonis at PF and you've got a very young starting five that's something to be at least semi-excited about for awhile.

[Andre Roberstan]

Didn't know Presti thought highly of Brown. I hated that pick for the Celtics. Brown just screams defensive specialist who, at his peak, MIGHT average around 16-18 PPG on pretty mediocre efficiency.

Yeah, there was a thread on the Boston Celtics board about it. It was him and...Riley?, I think? who were on the radio and had good things to say.

[OkcMagic]

Watch on YouTube

Everybody check out the highlight film i made for OKC ..

[Dadouv47]

DUNK CITY!

[Old Man Game]

Brown is an intriguing athlete. Sort of a Paul George type of prospect. High ceiling. But If he never learns to shoot you're looking at super size Tony Allen.