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Re: Around The NBA 2014/2015 

Post#61 » by spearsy23 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:28 am

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I mean….

Westbrook/Jackson
Harden/Roberson
Durant/Jones
Ibaka/Collison
Perkins/Thabeet

Is a paper lineup. Harden could never be what he is today if he was still here. He may average 18-20 points on a terrific efficiency, but so did Lamb/Reggie combined last year. Harden is a terrific player, he's also a guy who HAS to have the ball in his hands which would marginalize all of KD, Russ, Serge and Reggie. It's not about perceived value, it's about value relative to role. It's the reason we see guys playing on crap teams get big contracts every year then turn into nobody's. Anyway, I digress, I've had this conversation WAY too many times in WAY too many threads. To sum up my position: We wouldn't have beaten Memphis two years ago with Harden, we wouldn't have beaten the Spurs this year (and without Adams I don't believe we beat LAC so easily either), Harden would not be a 26/6 guy in OKC (or any team that wasn't being told 'go chuck then duck your defensive responsibilities), Russ is a better player and was also marginalized by Harden, we've had a better offensive efficiency rating without Harden, a max contract is too much to pay for your THIRD perimeter option. You'll disagree, I'll disagree, Chalky will resurrect from the dead and disagree, Joest will come expound on the many virtues of the great J-Lamb and ultimately we'll still be waiting to see what happens with Lamb/Adams/McGary down the road.
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Re: Around The NBA 2014/2015 

Post#62 » by bondom34 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:38 am

spearsy23 wrote:
BrianDavis wrote:
I mean….

Westbrook/Jackson
Harden/Roberson
Durant/Jones
Ibaka/Collison
Perkins/Thabeet

Is a paper lineup. Harden could never be what he is today if he was still here. He may average 18-20 points on a terrific efficiency, but so did Lamb/Reggie combined last year. Harden is a terrific player, he's also a guy who HAS to have the ball in his hands which would marginalize all of KD, Russ, Serge and Reggie. It's not about perceived value, it's about value relative to role. It's the reason we see guys playing on crap teams get big contracts every year then turn into nobody's. Anyway, I digress, I've had this conversation WAY too many times in WAY too many threads. To sum up my position: We wouldn't have beaten Memphis two years ago with Harden, we wouldn't have beaten the Spurs this year (and without Adams I don't believe we beat LAC so easily either), Harden would not be a 26/6 guy in OKC (or any team that wasn't being told 'go chuck then duck your defensive responsibilities), Russ is a better player and was also marginalized by Harden, we've had a better offensive efficiency rating without Harden, a max contract is too much to pay for your THIRD perimeter option. You'll disagree, I'll disagree, Chalky will resurrect from the dead and disagree, Joest will come expound on the many virtues of the great J-Lamb and ultimately we'll still be waiting to see what happens with Lamb/Adams/McGary down the road.

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Post#63 » by aaron_gray » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:20 am

Is Stephen Adams going to start next season
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Post#64 » by BrianDavis » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:42 am

aaron_gray wrote:Is Stephen Adams going to start next season


Brooks is pretty stubborn with his rotations, but I think he'll make a change next year. Adams should start, I bet he will.
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Post#65 » by aaron_gray » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:16 am

Would he be better than plum lee next year

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Post#66 » by bondom34 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:19 am

aaron_gray wrote:Would he be better than plum lee next year

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Close. Plums is better on offense, more skilled I'd say, but Adams is stronger defensively. Adams is also like 4 years younger.
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Post#67 » by aaron_gray » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:47 am

Statistically though, who will produce more next year in terms of rebounds blocks
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Post#68 » by bbms » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:29 am

Steven Adams was last season at 10 rebounds (4.3 offensive) and 1.7 blocks per 36. Assuming he goes for 27 mpg, that would mean 7.5 rpg and 1.2 blocks per game assuming no improvement/slump. I'd go for him in a fantasy league because I think he earned heavy minutes in his last playoffs run. Also, there's a chance Perkins gets moved in the deadline and he starts afterwards.
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Post#69 » by mab2039 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:43 pm

I think perkins will probably start but Adams will defenitely get more minutes and will finish the game.
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Post#70 » by bondom34 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:15 pm

mab2039 wrote:I think perkins will probably start but Adams will defenitely get more minutes and will finish the game.

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Post#71 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:06 pm

I have an extremely unlikely trade scenario that I'm curious about regarding the Thunder and wanted to hear the fans opinion on it without flooding the board with a new topic.

Since you all would be the path of greatest resistance to this trade, I want to hear your potential protests to a Love + 1st for Westbrook? I don't know if this has been discussed on here (if it has ad nauseam, I apologize).

In this hypothetical trade, try to keep an open mind and view it as if the Thunder weren't in a position of power since the T'Wolves are trying to maximize value before Love would inevitably run away.

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Post#72 » by bondom34 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:40 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I have an extremely unlikely trade scenario that I'm curious about regarding the Thunder and wanted to hear the fans opinion on it without flooding the board with a new topic.

Since you all would be the path of greatest resistance to this trade, I want to hear your potential protests to a Love + 1st for Westbrook? I don't know if this has been discussed on here (if it has ad nauseam, I apologize).

In this hypothetical trade, try to keep an open mind and view it as if the Thunder weren't in a position of power since the T'Wolves are trying to maximize value before Love would inevitably run away.

Thanks guys!

Yeah, it's been discussed. Nah, pass for OKC.
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Post#73 » by mab2039 » Wed Aug 6, 2014 9:56 pm

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mab2039 wrote:I think perkins will probably start but Adams will defenitely get more minutes and will finish the game.

Welcome to the boards!


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Post#74 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 1:41 pm

Well, I'm off the Cavs bandwagon...kinda hope the T Wolves do well now, they should be fun to watch w/ Wiggins/Lavine/Rubio/Dieng all young.
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Post#75 » by guille4s » Thu Aug 7, 2014 1:45 pm

Love is off the Northwest, time to get Peko.
What an awful shooting 5 is Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Bennett, Dieng
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Post#76 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 2:49 pm

guille4s wrote:Love is off the Northwest, time to get Peko.
What an awful shooting 5 is Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Bennett, Dieng

True, but the first 3 are crazy athletic. The division just got a bit weaker for the time being.
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Post#77 » by spearsy23 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 3:37 pm

guille4s wrote:Love is off the Northwest, time to get Peko.
What an awful shooting 5 is Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Bennett, Dieng

We've been looking for an answer at sg all offseason and we skip right over Martin for Pekovic.
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Post#78 » by HeartSouloma » Thu Aug 7, 2014 5:02 pm

K-Love going to Cavs, and now they are shopping for a decent center.
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Post#79 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 6:51 pm

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Post#80 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 7:51 pm

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