2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

Balkman32 · Post #1881 » by **Balkman32** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:39 pm

Either way looking at the Kanter market there are multiple alike guys available on the market w/ Monroe via trade/ free agency, Vucevic via Trade, and Valanciunas via trade.

Balkman32 · Post #1882 » by **Balkman32** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:40 pm

Is Ben McLemore at the mid-level something that would be interesting.

Pillendreher · Post #1883 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:59 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Either way looking at the Kanter market there are multiple alike guys available on the market w/ Monroe via trade/ free agency, Vucevic via Trade, and Valanciunas via trade.

Why on earth would anybody switch all offense, no defense centers?!

Balkman32 · Post #1884 » by **Balkman32** » Tue May 16, 2017 1:13 am

Pillendreher wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Either way looking at the Kanter market there are multiple alike guys available on the market w/ Monroe via trade/ free agency, Vucevic via Trade, and Valanciunas via trade.

Why on earth would anybody switch all offense, no defense centers?!

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I feel like these guys are all in the same boat. Have good traits yet major flaws and are available for trade.

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Kizz Fastfists · Post #1885 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue May 16, 2017 1:16 am

Balkman32 wrote:Is Ben McLemore at the mid-level something that would be interesting.

OKC can't afford the MLE, although I don't think McLemore gets that much. He wouldn't be very interesting stuck behind Dipo and Abrines.

spearsy23 · Post #1886 » by **spearsy23** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:20 am

Pillendreher wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Either way looking at the Kanter market there are multiple alike guys available on the market w/ Monroe via trade/ free agency, Vucevic via Trade, and Valanciunas via trade.

Why on earth would anybody switch all offense, no defense centers?!

Vucevic had a very good year defensively and is only making 12 million per year. I wish there was some way to swap him and kanter.

spearsy23 · Post #1887 » by **spearsy23** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:21 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Is Ben McLemore at the mid-level something that would be interesting.

OKC can't afford the MLE.

Way too premature to make that declaration.

Balkman32 · Post #1888 » by **Balkman32** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:38 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Is Ben McLemore at the mid-level something that would be interesting.

OKC can't afford the MLE.

Way too premature to make that declaration.

They always pledge to be fiscally responsible. If it make sense they can sign a guy to the full mle and be hard caped 5 mill above the lux tax because if they used it they will most likely attempt to be under the lux tax all together. It's really just a matter if some one will sign the deal. CJ Miles is another candidate. The Thunder signed him to an offer sheet a couple of years ago.

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Dn4sty · Post #1889 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:48 am

Oubre texting on the bench in game 7 after he didn't play at all. Could easily see him being moved. I'd love to have him in OKC

spearsy23 · Post #1890 » by **spearsy23** » Tue May 16, 2017 4:14 am

Dn4sty wrote:Oubre texting on the bench in game 7 after he didn't play at all. Could easily see him being moved. I'd love to have him in OKC

Why? He's still got two years on rookie deal, is only 21, and was productive for them this year. The only way he gets moved is if someone offers something attractive. Put it this way, Cam got Taj/Doug, so you gotta think that's the absolute minimum oubre would get. And oubre was much better than cam so I'd expect more than that.

Pillendreher · Post #1891 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue May 16, 2017 7:34 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Either way looking at the Kanter market there are multiple alike guys available on the market w/ Monroe via trade/ free agency, Vucevic via Trade, and Valanciunas via trade.

Why on earth would anybody switch all offense, no defense centers?!

Vucevic had a very good year defensively and is only making 12 million per year. I wish there was some way to swap him and kanter.

How on earth did he have a better DRPM than Adams?!

spearsy23 · Post #1892 » by **spearsy23** » Tue May 16, 2017 7:44 am

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Why on earth would anybody switch all offense, no defense centers?!

Vucevic had a very good year defensively and is only making 12 million per year. I wish there was some way to swap him and kanter.

How on earth did he have a better DRPM than Adams?!

Probably coaching. And DRPM agreed with the eye test, I followed orl quite a bit at the beginning of this year and early on he was defending better than serge or biyombo. Magic fans mostly agreed. It also helped having a shotblocking presence, which we are sorely lacking

Pillendreher · Post #1893 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue May 16, 2017 10:48 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Vucevic had a very good year defensively and is only making 12 million per year. I wish there was some way to swap him and kanter.

How on earth did he have a better DRPM than Adams?!

Probably coaching. And DRPM agreed with the eye test, I followed orl quite a bit at the beginning of this year and early on he was defending better than serge or biyombo. Magic fans mostly agreed. It also helped having a shotblocking presence, which we are sorely lacking

Well, either way we need help on the wing, not a 2nd Center.

Dn4sty · Post #1894 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:31 pm

Would pick 21 and Bulls 2018 2nd be enough to get Norman Powell?

Kizz Fastfists · Post #1895 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:59 pm

Dn4sty wrote:Would pick 21 and Bulls 2018 2nd be enough to get Norman Powell?

Possibly, but then you just wasted the #21 pick for a guy that is stuck on the bench behind Dipo and Abrines.

Dn4sty · Post #1896 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:03 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:Would pick 21 and Bulls 2018 2nd be enough to get Norman Powell?

Possibly, but then you just wasted the #21 pick for a guy that is stuck on the bench behind Dipo and Abrines.

Disagree. I'd start Powell and let Dipo become 6th man

Post #1897 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:10 pm

Dn4sty wrote:Would pick 21 and Bulls 2018 2nd be enough to get Norman Powell?

Really doubt it.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #1898 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:12 pm

Dn4sty wrote:Disagree. I'd start Powell and let Dipo become 6th man

So you stick Abrines on the bench? Abrines is younger and better than Powell. Why wouldn't you start Abrines for Dipo to be the 6th man?

spearsy23 · Post #1899 » by **spearsy23** » Wed May 17, 2017 3:12 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:Disagree. I'd start Powell and let Dipo become 6th man

So you stick Abrines on the bench? Abrines is younger and better than Powell. Why wouldn't you start Abrines for Dipo to be the 6th man?

Powell had a better season than Alex by every measure, and they're functionally the same age. Until Alex learns to defend and fight through contact (and puts on 20 pounds) he's going to struggle to make a positive all around impact. You can't teach the stroke he has though, so it's worth being patient.

Dn4sty · Post #1900 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed May 17, 2017 3:28 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:Disagree. I'd start Powell and let Dipo become 6th man

So you stick Abrines on the bench? Abrines is younger and better than Powell. Why wouldn't you start Abrines for Dipo to be the 6th man?

Powell had a better season than Alex by every measure, and they're functionally the same age. Until Alex learns to defend and fight through contact (and puts on 20 pounds) he's going to struggle to make a positive all around impact. You can't teach the stroke he has though, so it's worth being patient.

Powell helps set up the OKC rotations way better. It allows Dipo to come off bench as 6th man. and even allows OKC to play a 3 guard lineup with Powell taking the SF defensively (he has a 6-11 wingspan).

OKC would still need to find a backup PG (maybe a Kanter for Clarkson or Knight swap), and hopefully a bargain bin/scrap heap center (Nene type).

Powell would help this team immensely