Is Tiger Woods considered disgraced?

[raptorsfan24]

.. Kobe assaulted some girl we don't call him a disgraced basketball player

No.. I call him a dishonest anal fiend. For some thats a thumbs up.. for me he will be forever stained!

Do people still believe this?? It was proven that the girl was a liar and their were reports that she had cum stains on her underwear from other men and that she bragged to her friends about sleeping with Kobe.

[Rapsalot]

Some folks you can say they were a great all round person and player. Tim Duncan fits this.

Some are great at job but not at home more often. Some are great humans but just OK players.

Tiger on the golfer side is one of the top 5 all time greatest in modern time where they have the current line up of majors. There are a handful pre WW II that were great but, that is a whole different world and game.
Golf is a different game they feel like they are more on the moral high even if they are not? Some cheating in Baseball is celebrated while in golf it would be rebuffed.

Bill Clinton was a good to very good US President but is still a disgraced President. A rim job in Oval Office and then looking into camera of US and lying will always be in the first paragraph of his bio along with very good economy and moving to center in second term. So too for Tiger he will always be a disgraced golfer. If he was cyclist for example no one would care. Then again he might not have been popular enough to get the ladies. Tiger stuttered as a boy and played golf so his "cool rating" was low. Then he becomes a global icon and women are after him left right and center. He likely had some insecurities from a young age that he needed to work out before marriage. Shame really.

A few comments early said he never tried to be special out side of the game. Not sure that is the case there was a big push with TW foundation and first Tee and his father even talked politics long-term like he had more greatness outside game and some said in early 2000s he might be first black President.

[grimlock]

.. Kobe assaulted some girl we don't call him a disgraced basketball player

No.. I call him a dishonest anal fiend. For some thats a thumbs up.. for me he will be forever stained!

Do people still believe this?? It was proven that the girl was a liar and their were reports that she had cum stains on her underwear from other men and that she bragged to her friends about sleeping with Kobe.

It was proven that Kobe didn't have anal sex with her?

whats your sources?

[will]

LOL at the girl having nut stains on her underwear from other men.

[Rhythm043]

It's only cheating if you don't say sorry afterwards. As far as I'm concerned, Tiger did nothing wrong.

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[mrsocko]

Tiger has now become a good guy compared to druggy Dustin"hide your wives"Johnson. Tiger should have done a George Brett and sowed until he was 40 and then marry a pinup. Get it out of your system before marriage.

[JN]

Wayne must be proud of his future son in law.

[Geddy]

Tiger has now become a good guy compared to druggy Dustin"hide your wives"Johnson. Tiger should have done a George Brett and sowed until he was 40 and then marry a pinup. Get it out of your system before marriage.

Speaking of Dustin Johnson it was interesting to see how sports media and golf fans reacted to the news about him doing coke. There was a general tone of sympathy with people wishing him the best and hoping he overcomes his addiction. I would imagine had it been Tiger or an athlete in another sport the reaction would have been a lot different.

You also have guys like Mickelson and Watson who have d-bag personalities but they never get taken to task for it.

[LLJ]

No.. I call him a dishonest anal fiend. For some thats a thumbs up.. for me he will be forever stained!

Do people still believe this?? It was proven that the girl was a liar and their were reports that she had cum stains on her underwear from other men and that she bragged to her friends about sleeping with Kobe.

It was proven that Kobe didn't have anal sex with her?

whats your sources?

Hahaha

Seriously though, as far as I'm concerned, Kobe is just a perv who cheated on his wife. Basically, your typical American bloke.

[JN]

Tiger has now become a good guy compared to druggy Dustin"hide your wives"Johnson. Tiger should have done a George Brett and sowed until he was 40 and then marry a pinup. Get it out of your system before marriage.

Speaking of Dustin Johnson it was interesting to see how sports media and golf fans reacted to the news about him doing coke. There was a general tone of sympathy with people wishing him the best and hoping he overcomes his addiction. I would imagine had it been Tiger or an athlete in another sport the reaction would have been a lot different.

You also have guys like Mickelson and Watson who have d-bag personalities but they never get taken to task for it.

Must hold back from rant. He is the biggest d-bag and phony in sports. He is marketed as a person of the people, and all he cares about are his buddies at investment banks. Mickelson barely got called for his insider trading activities -- some said that the was such a a good guy that he earned the benefit of the doubt.

F Phil and his phony gimmick.

[mrsocko]

Tiger has now become a good guy compared to druggy Dustin"hide your wives"Johnson. Tiger should have done a George Brett and sowed until he was 40 and then marry a pinup. Get it out of your system before marriage.

Speaking of Dustin Johnson it was interesting to see how sports media and golf fans reacted to the news about him doing coke. There was a general tone of sympathy with people wishing him the best and hoping he overcomes his addiction. I would imagine had it been Tiger or an athlete in another sport the reaction would have been a lot different.

You also have guys like Mickelson and Watson who have d-bag personalities but they never get taken to task for it.

Golf's always been like that. Back in the day Arnie had a girl in every town and none of the Golf media would report it because of the good ol boys club. Tiger would never have got found out if he hadn't hit that tree and then the regular media started digging into his whoring around.

Dustin Johnson deserves no sympathy screwing other golfers wives though. To quote Tony Soprano "don't sh@t where you eat"

[JN]

Well it was a great PGA tournament yesterday with multiple people gunning for the title. Plenty of drama.

The other majors this year were a bit of a let down on Sunday.

The Masters was a two man race, that Bubba took over early on the back nine.
US Open, through no fault of its own, lost its lustre on Sunday due to Kaymer running away with it.
British Open, Rory was in full control on Sunday.

Tiger in contention adds an extra appeal to Majors but is not necessary. But what makes a major great is a great competitive battle. I believe it was either 2010 or 2011 that had amazing Sunday rounds in every major.

But sometimes it can't be controlled. While Tiger's runaway at the 97 Masters, 2001 US Open and the 2001 British were historic days, they lacked entertainment value. Instead people remember his great battles against guys who stepped it up that week -- the 2001 PGA vs Bob May, the 2008 US Open vs Rocco Mediate, the 2009 PGA loss vs YE Yang.

It had been similar for Rory -- his 3 first major wins were not that entertaining on Sunday. He walked away from the field in the 2011 US Open, the 2012 PGA, and was comfortably in front at the 2014 British all day. It was great to see him have to compete and pull it out.

[CJ_18]

Definetly not disgraced, but he was at one time the greatest athlete of his generation (arguably the greatest athlete of all time) who carried a squeaky clean image with him, and although he is still the best athlete in his sport, he no longer carries the same 'invincibility' about his game and life . He still possesses the talent, persona, etc with him that he had, but it has fallen off from a level that maybe no other athlete in history has reached, so the fall-off looks huge. He is certainly not the Tiger Woods he was before the Scandal/changes, but he still has it. To put things in perspective, he is still heavily adored and respected and when healthy, the best in his sport (though Rory appears to be challenging him at the moment).

[JN]

Haters out in full force on golf message boards today.

Such hypocrites.

A few days ago the narrative was "If Tiger has any class he will withdraw from the Ryder Cup so Tom Watson does not have to make a choice... but he will not because he lacks class"

After he withdraws the new narrative

"Tiger has no class. He should have said nothing. Only reason he did it was because he would not make the team. "

[penguine137]

We should not inter relate his personal life with his golf career. He is the best in the golf field and the whole world knows about it. I was and will remain his fan and follower.