The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 106
- And1: 1
- Joined: Sep 12, 2010
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Mem/Phil- we get meeks
Mem gets Meeks in a S&T
Phil gets their second round pick back that we got for Sam Young
Mem gets Meeks in a S&T
Phil gets their second round pick back that we got for Sam Young
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,819
- And1: 395
- Joined: Mar 24, 2010
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Philly offers Guard Evan Turner and Forward Thaddues Young for Rudy Gay.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- Basketball MVP
- Junior
- Posts: 395
- And1: 406
- Joined: Oct 14, 2010
- Location: grindhouse baby
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
SparksFly87 wrote:Philly offers Guard Evan Turner and Forward Thaddues Young for Rudy Gay.
I can't speak for everyone, but I don't trust ET to fill the gap Gay would leave, and Thaddeus is a hybrid 3/4, and hybrids aren't that great.
Memphis basketball
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,819
- And1: 395
- Joined: Mar 24, 2010
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Indy gets Evan Turner and Thad Young, Memphis gets Granger and a future pick from Indy . Sixers acquire Gay.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- Basketball MVP
- Junior
- Posts: 395
- And1: 406
- Joined: Oct 14, 2010
- Location: grindhouse baby
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
SparksFly87 wrote:Indy gets Evan Turner and Thad Young, Memphis gets Granger and a future pick from Indy . Sixers acquire Gay.
That I would be downgrading in a sense. Gay is much better then Granger.
Memphis basketball
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,060
- And1: 178
- Joined: Jul 06, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
wow, I guess the Pistons board isnt the only one who has Gay penciled into their starting lineup next season, lol. would there be any interest in Stuckey, Jerebko, Maggettes expiring (10 mil) and a future lottery protected 1st for Gay. we still owe Charlotte a 1st rounder, so the pick wouldnt come through until at least 2016.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,297
- And1: 5,024
- Joined: Aug 13, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
joseph mamah wrote:wow, I guess the Pistons board isnt the only one who has Gay penciled into their starting lineup next season, lol. would there be any interest in Stuckey, Jerebko, Maggettes expiring (10 mil) and a future lottery protected 1st for Gay. we still owe Charlotte a 1st rounder, so the pick wouldnt come through until at least 2016.
I'd rather give you Tony Wroten, Wayne Ellington, and a future unprotected first for Stuckey
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Forum Mod - Blazers
- Posts: 14,225
- And1: 6,158
- Joined: Mar 11, 2010
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Alright, assuming a situation where you had to trade Gay, which do you prefer?
Memphis trades: Gay, Allen, Ellington, Pondexter
Memphis gets: Ellis, Prince, Maggette
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Ellis - Wroten
Prince - Maggette
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
or
Memphis trades: Gay
Memphis gets: Young, Turner
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Allen - Ellington - Wroten
Turner - Young - Pondexter
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
In my opinion, Memphis wouldn't trade Gay in either instance. However, which trade leaves you better this year? Which trade makes your long term future brighter? Which trade makes more financial sense?
Thanks for playing along, I just lost in the trade tournament, and was curious about your reactions to this scenario.
Memphis trades: Gay, Allen, Ellington, Pondexter
Memphis gets: Ellis, Prince, Maggette
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Ellis - Wroten
Prince - Maggette
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
or
Memphis trades: Gay
Memphis gets: Young, Turner
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Allen - Ellington - Wroten
Turner - Young - Pondexter
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
In my opinion, Memphis wouldn't trade Gay in either instance. However, which trade leaves you better this year? Which trade makes your long term future brighter? Which trade makes more financial sense?
Thanks for playing along, I just lost in the trade tournament, and was curious about your reactions to this scenario.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,297
- And1: 5,024
- Joined: Aug 13, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Alright, assuming a situation where you had to trade Gay, which do you prefer?
Memphis trades: Gay, Allen, Ellington, Pondexter
Memphis gets: Ellis, Prince, Maggette
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Ellis - Wroten
Prince - Maggette
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
or
Memphis trades: Gay
Memphis gets: Young, Turner
Conley - Bayless - Selby
Allen - Ellington - Wroten
Turner - Young - Pondexter
Randolph - Speights/Arthur
Gasol - Hadaddi
In my opinion, Memphis wouldn't trade Gay in either instance. However, which trade leaves you better this year? Which trade makes your long term future brighter? Which trade makes more financial sense?
Thanks for playing along, I just lost in the trade tournament, and was curious about your reactions to this scenario.
Option 1 is full of scrubs that do not actually improve the team now or in the future. Not to mention it makes MEM a huge liability on the defensive perimeter.
Option 2 is still bad, but at least Tuner can play the 2 or the 3 and Young can play the 3 or the 4, Giving MEM a little bit of versatility. Also, Ellis' contract is not included.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- BadMofoPimp
- RealGM
- Posts: 47,383
- And1: 11,591
- Joined: Oct 12, 2003
- Location: In the Paint
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
As an independent outsider, I am wondering why so many teams boards on RealGM think they can trade for Rudy Gay? I really like the team you guys have constructed and think you should keep your core. But, everyone seems to think that Gay is going to be traded. Can ya'll enlighten me why would you even do this besides luxury cap. I would get rid of Randolph myself if push came to shove.
Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- SD2042
- Senior Mod - Grizzlies
- Posts: 24,604
- And1: 2,413
- Joined: Mar 05, 2002
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
If it were to come down to this, the move to go for is RG22. Why? Memphis is a small market like OKC and like them, attracting or retaining free agents to small markets is hard by nature due to the city's economy. Especially if you're a team w/o any titles or struggling to carve a niche in this league.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,297
- And1: 5,024
- Joined: Aug 13, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
SD2042 wrote:If it were to come down to this, the move to go for is RG22. Why? Memphis is a small market like OKC and like them, attracting or retaining free agents to small markets is hard by nature due to the city's economy. Especially if you're a team w/o any titles or struggling to carve a niche in this league.
Gay is already on a max contract and is still on the team so that MAY be an excuse when his contract is up but i don't see it happening since Z-bo's contract would also be up at the same time and i don't see him asking for more money than he's getting right now. Gay on the other hand, will attract a lot of teams so another max contract is likely.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- Rapsobsessed7
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,598
- And1: 4,553
- Joined: May 11, 2008
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
someone posted this on the T&T board, wanted to see what you guys thought of it.
To TOR: Rudy Gay + Wayne Ellington + Dj Augustin
To IND: Terrence Ross + Jose Calderon + Linas Kleiza
To MEM: Danny Granger + Alan Anderson
* Memphis clears 4.6 of immediate salary putting them underneath the luxury tax.
I thought Granger fit your current team better by providing better spacing but obviously he would need to prove his health and something like this take place closer to the trade deadline but assuming all is well, what do you think?
To TOR: Rudy Gay + Wayne Ellington + Dj Augustin
To IND: Terrence Ross + Jose Calderon + Linas Kleiza
To MEM: Danny Granger + Alan Anderson
* Memphis clears 4.6 of immediate salary putting them underneath the luxury tax.
I thought Granger fit your current team better by providing better spacing but obviously he would need to prove his health and something like this take place closer to the trade deadline but assuming all is well, what do you think?
Canadafan wrote:Bojan Burks Stewart for Siakam.
2 expiring vets that help now. A young big to add to the Scottie timeline
I'd prefer to keep Stew and give Monte Morris
I'd really prefer to keep Morris and Stew and give the great Killian Hayes and 2nd round picks
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Junior
- Posts: 298
- And1: 2
- Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:someone posted this on the T&T board, wanted to see what you guys thought of it.
To TOR: Rudy Gay + Wayne Ellington + Dj Augustin
To IND: Terrence Ross + Jose Calderon + Linas Kleiza
To MEM: Danny Granger + Alan Anderson
* Memphis clears 4.6 of immediate salary putting them underneath the luxury tax.
I thought Granger fit your current team better by providing better spacing but obviously he would need to prove his health and something like this take place closer to the trade deadline but assuming all is well, what do you think?
Pacers fan here. I don't think we want to move Granger right now, and Ellington plays well in Memphis and I don't think they want to move him either.
Combine with the rumor about Sixers want to get Maynor, here's my thought:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=at9nyfs
MEM get: Beasley, Dudley, 1st round pick from PHX
PHX get: Gay, Lamb
OKC get: Wright, Ivy
PHI get: W-Johnson, Maynor
For MEM, clear over 6 million this season and get a qulified role player, Dudley, and a potential (if you think so), Beasley.
For PHX, upgrade for the wings.
For OKC, get a back-up wing player.
For PHI, get a back-up point guard.
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- BadMofoPimp
- RealGM
- Posts: 47,383
- And1: 11,591
- Joined: Oct 12, 2003
- Location: In the Paint
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Why don't you guys trade Randolph for Pau Gasol so Pau could play with his brother?
Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 183
- And1: 2
- Joined: Nov 12, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
basic framework of the deal. Final could involve draft picks, young players, more bad contracts...
Lakers Out: Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace
Lakers In: Andrea Bargnani, Rudy Gay
Lakers gain youth and better fits, taking on longer-term salary to pay the price for it.
Howard /Hill
Bargnani /Jamison
Gay /Ebanks
Bryant /Meeks
Nash /Morris
Grizzlies Out: Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay
Grizzlies In: Pau Gasol, DeMar DeRozan, Jose Calderon
Shorter contracts, as well as a useful player and big expiring in Jose. DeMar isn't much worse, but is a less costly version of Rudy.
Gasol /Speights
Gasol /Arthur
DeRozan /Pondexter
Allen /Bayless
Calderon /Conley
Raptors Out: DeMar DeRozan, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon
Raptors In: Zach Randolph, Metta World Peace
Get into the Playoffs and possible make some noise for the first time in a long time.
Valanciunas /Johnson
Randolph /Davis
World Peace /Fields
Anderson /Ross /Pietrus
Lowry /Lucas
Lakers Out: Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace
Lakers In: Andrea Bargnani, Rudy Gay
Lakers gain youth and better fits, taking on longer-term salary to pay the price for it.
Howard /Hill
Bargnani /Jamison
Gay /Ebanks
Bryant /Meeks
Nash /Morris
Grizzlies Out: Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay
Grizzlies In: Pau Gasol, DeMar DeRozan, Jose Calderon
Shorter contracts, as well as a useful player and big expiring in Jose. DeMar isn't much worse, but is a less costly version of Rudy.
Gasol /Speights
Gasol /Arthur
DeRozan /Pondexter
Allen /Bayless
Calderon /Conley
Raptors Out: DeMar DeRozan, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon
Raptors In: Zach Randolph, Metta World Peace
Get into the Playoffs and possible make some noise for the first time in a long time.
Valanciunas /Johnson
Randolph /Davis
World Peace /Fields
Anderson /Ross /Pietrus
Lowry /Lucas
RIP Jerry Buss
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,178
- And1: 635
- Joined: Apr 27, 2005
- Location: memphis
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Baby Bop wrote:basic framework of the deal. Final could involve draft picks, young players, more bad contracts...
Lakers Out: Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace
Lakers In: Andrea Bargnani, Rudy Gay
Lakers gain youth and better fits, taking on longer-term salary to pay the price for it.
Howard /Hill
Bargnani /Jamison
Gay /Ebanks
Bryant /Meeks
Nash /Morris
Grizzlies Out: Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay
Grizzlies In: Pau Gasol, DeMar DeRozan, Jose Calderon
Shorter contracts, as well as a useful player and big expiring in Jose. DeMar isn't much worse, but is a less costly version of Rudy.
Gasol /Speights
Gasol /Arthur
DeRozan /Pondexter
Allen /Bayless
Calderon /Conley
Raptors Out: DeMar DeRozan, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon
Raptors In: Zach Randolph, Metta World Peace
Get into the Playoffs and possible make some noise for the first time in a long time.
Valanciunas /Johnson
Randolph /Davis
World Peace /Fields
Anderson /Ross /Pietrus
Lowry /Lucas
Unspeakably bad for the Grizzlies
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
- Morse Code
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,413
- And1: 8,434
- Joined: May 20, 2011
- Location: Halifax
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
I'm not a Derozan fanboy but I don't understand the hate for DD from memphis fans. He's slightly worse than Gay this seasons statistically, he's younger and a hard worker (adds more to his game every season) and about half the price. From the raptors perspective most of us would rather include DD than Ross just because Ross has great upside, plays really good D, can shoot from beyond the 3 line, gets out on fast breaks and very athletic. Many raptors fans believe he will be better than Demar within a few seasons if given the same opportunity. Not to mention he's on a rookie contract and seems like a team-first kind of guy. Calderon doesn't serve much purpose other than the expiring 11M plus his on-court chemistry with Gasol. He would be one of, if not the best, back up PG in the league which would help MEM in the playoffs.
I have seen some pretty good offers from other teams, that the Raptors wouldn't be able to match, but they are coming from fans, and we don't know what has actually been offered, obviously. If it turns out that you guys can get somebody like Derrick Williams +picks/expirings, or AK47, or something like that, then good luck. If not, I think DD would mesh well with your lineup and continue to get better, and T Ross could also start right away and be an asset for the future.
At this point, Raptors are willing to give up anything but Lowry and Valanciunas, IMO. Also, we would want to keep one of DD or Ross. You guys don't like a Calderon + DD or Ross + fields/Kleiza or Ed Davis package at all? Our feeling is that DD would be better because it means less raping of our cap space from taking on Gay. That's why I thought Ross or Ed Davis would be better than fields/DD because they're super cheap and young, but one poster seemed to want Calderon + DD + Fields, which from Raptors perspective is MUCH better than just Calderon + DD + filler or Calderon + Ross + filler. You would be doing us a favor to take Fields lol
I have seen some pretty good offers from other teams, that the Raptors wouldn't be able to match, but they are coming from fans, and we don't know what has actually been offered, obviously. If it turns out that you guys can get somebody like Derrick Williams +picks/expirings, or AK47, or something like that, then good luck. If not, I think DD would mesh well with your lineup and continue to get better, and T Ross could also start right away and be an asset for the future.
At this point, Raptors are willing to give up anything but Lowry and Valanciunas, IMO. Also, we would want to keep one of DD or Ross. You guys don't like a Calderon + DD or Ross + fields/Kleiza or Ed Davis package at all? Our feeling is that DD would be better because it means less raping of our cap space from taking on Gay. That's why I thought Ross or Ed Davis would be better than fields/DD because they're super cheap and young, but one poster seemed to want Calderon + DD + Fields, which from Raptors perspective is MUCH better than just Calderon + DD + filler or Calderon + Ross + filler. You would be doing us a favor to take Fields lol
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,898
- And1: 1,228
- Joined: Dec 26, 2012
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Everyone gets what they want...who says no?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9954b2
And add a 2013 2nd round to kings from washington
Wizards get talent
Grizzlies get low cost replacements and wing shooters
Rockets get defense, better back court chemistry and a low post threat...
Kings get an older cousins, back court defense, a 6th man, a pure shooter on the wing, and 2nd round pick
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9954b2
And add a 2013 2nd round to kings from washington
Wizards get talent
Grizzlies get low cost replacements and wing shooters
Rockets get defense, better back court chemistry and a low post threat...
Kings get an older cousins, back court defense, a 6th man, a pure shooter on the wing, and 2nd round pick
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,831
- And1: 125
- Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
deneem4 wrote:Everyone gets what they want...who says no?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b9954b2
And add a 2013 2nd round to kings from washington
Wizards get talent
Grizzlies get low cost replacements and wing shooters
Rockets get defense, better back court chemistry and a low post threat...
Kings get an older cousins, back court defense, a 6th man, a pure shooter on the wing, and 2nd round pick
so are you Beavis or Butthead? THIS IS A VERY BAD JOKE!