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Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 12:08 pm
by MadNESS
I wanted Barkley + Bridges or Robinson + role player, but I didn't like the 2 big man idea really... also, needed someone on the perimeter (Harden). Those were the 3 I was debating. Too many guys dropped in this draft. Its too deep. Crazy the amount of FGA's already spent. Bench's should be thin or some really weak 4th/5th starters might be incoming.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 1:12 pm
by MadNESS
Fades about to win this game here I think

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 1:22 pm
by Fadeaway_J
MadNESS wrote:Fades about to win this game here I think

Have you seen my FGAs? :lol:

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 1:26 pm
by MadNESS
Fadeaway_J wrote:
MadNESS wrote:Fades about to win this game here I think

Have you seen my FGAs? :lol:


That’s what I’m hoping for… and I will get who it is :pray:

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 3:03 pm
by MadNESS
Fadeaway_J wrote:
MadNESS wrote:Fades about to win this game here I think

Have you seen my FGAs? :lol:


Up Fade. Don’t steal my hopes and dreams.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 4:13 pm
by Fadeaway_J
MadNESS wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
MadNESS wrote:Fades about to win this game here I think

Have you seen my FGAs? :lol:


Up Fade. Don’t steal my hopes and dreams.

I almost took who I think you want, but I really needed to solve my PF problem.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 4:21 pm
by Snakebites
Man, it is WILD how much deeper the west is than the east.

Much easier to build a team in this one.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 4:27 pm
by Fadeaway_J
Snakebites wrote:Man, it is WILD how much deeper the west is than the east.

Much easier to build a team in this one.

It is, but pretty much what you'd expect having followed the last 20+ years. The gap between the conferences was comical at times.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 4:34 pm
by Snakebites
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Man, it is WILD how much deeper the west is than the east.

Much easier to build a team in this one.

It is, but pretty much what you'd expect having followed the last 20+ years. The gap between the conferences was comical at times.


Absolutely.

The teams in the west have, on average, been run better and have procured better teams.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:13 pm
by flaco
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Man, it is WILD how much deeper the west is than the east.

Much easier to build a team in this one.

It is, but pretty much what you'd expect having followed the last 20+ years. The gap between the conferences was comical at times.


Absolutely.

The teams in the west have, on average, been run better and have procured better teams.

I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:18 pm
by Snakebites
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:It is, but pretty much what you'd expect having followed the last 20+ years. The gap between the conferences was comical at times.


Absolutely.

The teams in the west have, on average, been run better and have procured better teams.

I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

The disparity predates Lebron though.

Though yeah, during the Lebron era I definitely noticed that the west kept seeing new good teams popping up, while the east just slowing decayed for years.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:19 pm
by Fadeaway_J
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:It is, but pretty much what you'd expect having followed the last 20+ years. The gap between the conferences was comical at times.


Absolutely.

The teams in the west have, on average, been run better and have procured better teams.

I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

It was worse before LeBron became dominant.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:24 pm
by flaco
Snakebites wrote:
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Absolutely.

The teams in the west have, on average, been run better and have procured better teams.

I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

The disparity predates Lebron though.

Though yeah, during the Lebron era I definitely noticed that the west kept seeing new good teams popping up, while the east just slowing decayed for years.

Well, Jordan was even more dominant than LeBron. The opposite goes for the 80s though. East had the upper hand cause Western teams were reluctant to go all in against the showtime Lakers. The Pistons, the Sixers and the Bucks had very strong teams at the time. At least this is my explanation. To some extent, both explanations may well be true at the same time.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:28 pm
by uberhikari
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
flaco wrote:I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

The disparity predates Lebron though.

Though yeah, during the Lebron era I definitely noticed that the west kept seeing new good teams popping up, while the east just slowing decayed for years.

Well, Jordan was even more dominant than LeBron. The opposite goes for the 80s though. East had the upper hand cause Western teams were reluctant to go all in against the showtime Lakers. The Pistons, the Sixers and the Bucks had very strong teams at the time. At least this is my explanation. To some extent, both explanations may well be true at the same time.


In the context of locking out other teams in the East, no he wasn't. LeBron went to 8 straight Finals; Jordan retired for 2 years.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:31 pm
by Fadeaway_J
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
flaco wrote:I think LeBron's dominance discouraged teams from going all in. Since LeBron moved to the West, I'd argue the East is gradually gaining the upper hand.

The disparity predates Lebron though.

Though yeah, during the Lebron era I definitely noticed that the west kept seeing new good teams popping up, while the east just slowing decayed for years.

Well, Jordan was even more dominant than LeBron. The opposite goes for the 80s though. East had the upper hand cause Western teams were reluctant to go all in against the showtime Lakers. The Pistons, the Sixers and the Bucks had very strong teams at the time. At least this is my explanation. To some extent, both explanations may well be true at the same time.

My explanation is that the mediocrity of the East prevented a lot of teams from properly bottoming out and rebuilding. The standards were much higher in the West with teams winning 50 games and finishing with the #8 seed.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 5:31 pm
by Snakebites
uberhikari wrote:
flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:The disparity predates Lebron though.

Though yeah, during the Lebron era I definitely noticed that the west kept seeing new good teams popping up, while the east just slowing decayed for years.

Well, Jordan was even more dominant than LeBron. The opposite goes for the 80s though. East had the upper hand cause Western teams were reluctant to go all in against the showtime Lakers. The Pistons, the Sixers and the Bucks had very strong teams at the time. At least this is my explanation. To some extent, both explanations may well be true at the same time.


In the context of locking out other teams in the East, no he wasn't. LeBron went to 8 straight Finals; Jordan retired for 2 years.

The fact that those Cavs teams (especially the last two years) reached the finals four straight years (and you can throw their 2007 trip in there too, frankly) says more about the east than it says about how great those Cavs teams were.

They don't belong in the conversation with the rest of the teams. Lebron was great but those Cavs teams were very beatable 3 out of the 5 times Lebron made the finals with them. Just not by anyone in the crappy east.

And yes I realize I'm negging on the 2007 Pistons. But that was our worst year during that run.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Signups

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 6:11 pm
by MadNESS
durantbird wrote:In of course


Up

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 6:16 pm
by MadNESS
Playing the board a bit and manipulating the numbers and I will take who I actually wanted next round… I think it’ll work

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 6:34 pm
by Laimbeer
Pacific Division - Atlantic Division Cross-Era Draft? Deep enough? This thing is pretty loaded.

Re: West Cross-Era Duos - Discussion

Posted: Sun Apr 7, 2024 8:00 pm
by MadNESS
Dammit Roddy :lol: