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Post#1 Best website to access advanced statistics?
Wed May 23, 2012 11:40 am by The Goonibomber

Out of curiosity, where do you guys typically go to retrieve NBA info?
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Post#2 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed May 23, 2012 1:32 pm by SideshowBob

http://www.basketball-reference.com/ - Best overall stat database

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/ - Easy access On/Off numbers, shooting splits, quarterly breakdowns, clutch numbers, etc.

http://www.hoopdata.com - Player and Team shooting splits, assist location breakdowns

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ - RAPM,

http://basketballvalue.com/index.php - APM, PbP database, extensive lineup data, On/Off, player combinations

http://82games.com/ - Misc.
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Post#3 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed May 23, 2012 3:24 pm by The Goonibomber

Whoa. Much appreciated man.
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Post#4 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed May 23, 2012 5:35 pm by SideshowBob

Also:

http://www.nbastuffer.com/

NBAstuffer.com has a whole host of various other data, but what's really helpful is their advanced stats glossary.

http://www.nbastuffer.com/component/option,com_glossary/Itemid,90/

And PopcornMachine.net has game flows; somewhat visual representations of box score data over the course of a game.

http://popcornmachine.net/
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Post#5 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed May 23, 2012 5:35 pm by SideshowBob

The Goonibomber wrote:Whoa. Much appreciated man.


Glad to help :)
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Post#6 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Thu May 24, 2012 3:21 am by rrravenred

Recommend this gets stickied, so it can get added to as further sites emerge.
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Post#7 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Sat May 26, 2012 11:04 am by EvanZ

I wrote a fairly detailed advanced stats primer:

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/advanced-stats-primer/
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Post#8 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Sat May 26, 2012 2:04 pm by Doctor MJ

EvanZ wrote:I wrote a fairly detailed advanced stats primer:

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/advanced-stats-primer/


And in case anyone's in doubt, Evan Z's The City blog is a great stats site in and of itself.
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Post#9 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Sun May 27, 2012 7:36 am by -Kees-

Great thread. I use mostly bball-ref, 82games and hoopdata. bball-ref is great for comparisons, head-to-heads, stats from farther back in history, ect. 82games gives me a ton of on/off floor stats, along with 5 man lineups. Hoopdata is amazing for comparing shots on the floor by certain players, like which centers make the most shots or highest % from 9-15 ft away? Or other things like that.

I agree that this should be stickied, we will have some great references when this is done.

Anyone know a place with free P&R stats? Just looking for basic ones, like how often does the ball handler score, how often does the picker score, ect. Is there a free place, or would I have to get Synergy?
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Post#10 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:42 pm by LApwnd

which one of the site can show how often a player gets double team? Anyone know who the top 5 or 10 players are who get doubled alot?
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Post#11 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:13 am by branny

LApwnd wrote:which one of the site can show how often a player gets double team? Anyone know who the top 5 or 10 players are who get doubled alot?


I don't think that's possible.. It would take a looong time.
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Post#12 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:21 pm by john2jer

Is there a site that allows you to "make" your own stats? Meaning, if I wanted to see a ranking of points + rebounds + assists? Or something like that. Or if I wanted to take rebounds and multiply it by TS%... Basically a site that allows me to customize.
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Post#13 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:47 pm by EvanZ

john2jer wrote:Is there a site that allows you to "make" your own stats? Meaning, if I wanted to see a ranking of points + rebounds + assists? Or something like that. Or if I wanted to take rebounds and multiply it by TS%... Basically a site that allows me to customize.


Not exactly what you're after, but I maintain a spreadsheet of stats that you could manipulate by creating formulas pretty easily.

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/player-stats/

Here's a glossary that gives the definitions:

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/glossary/
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Post#14 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:22 pm by jman3134

Was on basketballvalue, and I couldn't access lineup data for the Memphis Grizzlies. Any other sites that can offer this information?
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Post#15 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:19 pm by EvanZ

jman3134 wrote:Was on basketballvalue, and I couldn't access lineup data for the Memphis Grizzlies. Any other sites that can offer this information?


The reason for that is that the site operator (Aaron B.) works for Memphis, so he doesn't make their data public (although you can extract it from the matchup files if you want, but it's not easy).
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Post#16 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:03 pm by Bensational

does anyone know if there's a measurement for the overall success of a PG-C/PF combo? as in, something to find the best PG to partner with a dominant big man?
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Post#17 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:26 pm by aaa

thanks for all the great mentions so far, I use many of them. From a fantasy stats perspective, is there anything quite like basketballmonster.com?
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Post#18 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:48 am by Rod700

What is the best stat to determine a player's defensive impact? I don't like stats that incorporate blocks and steals, and would prefer something focused on the offensive production of the player he is guarding. I realize this is difficult though as zone defenses and picks reduce the clarity of which player is responsible for guarding which player. I would think that, as a result, we would be regulating to looking at team defensive statistics with a player on and off the floor. However, the advanced stats on nba.com due break out an individual players performance against another individual, player, so it seems possible to individualize the impact of a single player. I just can't find anything that quantifies how well a player does at holding other players below their average FG% or EFG% for example. Any thoughts on the best means of determining individual defensive impact?
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Post#19 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:30 pm by EvanZ

Rod700 wrote:What is the best stat to determine a player's defensive impact? I don't like stats that incorporate blocks and steals, and would prefer something focused on the offensive production of the player he is guarding. I realize this is difficult though as zone defenses and picks reduce the clarity of which player is responsible for guarding which player. I would think that, as a result, we would be regulating to looking at team defensive statistics with a player on and off the floor. However, the advanced stats on nba.com due break out an individual players performance against another individual, player, so it seems possible to individualize the impact of a single player. I just can't find anything that quantifies how well a player does at holding other players below their average FG% or EFG% for example. Any thoughts on the best means of determining individual defensive impact?


Defense RAPM.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking_rec
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Post#20 Re: Best website to access advanced statistic
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:49 pm by -Kees-

^How exactly is that calculated? And is there only RAPM stats for this year?
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