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Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:06 pm
by payitforward
Oh I agree -- we need to tie this guy up (contractually I mean) -- who cares whether he can play productively.

Surely we all understand that we need to build a great team on some level other than wins and losses, where we don't seem to be able to make much headway. We can be great on the basketball IQ front. Ok, someone needs to come up w/ a test for bball iq that takes place somewhere other than the floor and at some time other than during a game.

Whatever test we come up with, I'm counting on Shaun to ace it. Be great, Shaun. Be great, Wizards.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:09 pm
by AFM
WizD you are probably my favorite poster. I don't even think you know how funny your posts are.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:09 pm
by payitforward
Not to hijack this thread, but I wonder how many of you realize that the Celtics just waived Darko Milicic.

This may be one of the few highpick-busts still out there for the Wizards. I think we need him and bad. Today.

Dunno about his test-taking skills, however....

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:18 pm
by Ed Wood
Only to see who among us could at this point somehow get excited about Darko, and indignant that he isn't being used properly. Basically an avenue to self-disgrace, that's what he brings to the table.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:31 am
by Nivek
I think Darko has untapped basketball IQ. He just needs a long-term contract along with the chance to play alongside Livingston.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:45 am
by Ed Wood
Nivek wrote:I think Darko has untapped basketball IQ. He just needs a long-term contract along with the chance to play alongside Livingston.


Darko considers the prospect with contemptuous indifference, as he does life generally.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:29 am
by sashae
I need an excuse to wear my Darko Pistons jersey. Do it up, Ernie!

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:33 pm
by payitforward
Nivek wrote:I think Darko has untapped basketball IQ. He just needs a long-term contract along with the chance to play alongside Livingston.

... and to have Hands explain how good he is? :)

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:24 pm
by WizarDynasty
11/25 continuing to monitor the progress of intellectual foundation of the backcourt players. Leonsis, livingston should be your personal consultant for anything related to basketball. That alone is worth his contract.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:47 pm
by dangermouse
Well, ever since Wall got here and Hinrich and Arenas left, we have been crying for a veteran back-up PG.

SL is probably the best we'll get, might as well lock him in for a couple of seasons.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:43 pm
by Nivek
Don't know about you, but I'm blown away with Livingston's hoops IQ so far. Small sample size, but it's not just the .417 efg, 96 ortg, or 3.8 assists per 36 minutes -- it's the way he's getting them. WOW!

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:12 pm
by AFM
Now now Kevin, do you want another surface to air missile?

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:38 pm
by Nivek
Why would WizD fire on me (again)? I'm supporting his contention with cold, hard, statistical facts. It takes the finest hoops IQ of a generation to post career numbers like Livingston's .462 efg, 5.5 assists per 36 minutes, and an ortg of 100. And again, it's not just the numbers themselves that make observers say WOW, it's the way he gets them.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:28 pm
by AFM
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Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:11 pm
by cwb3
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Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:55 pm
by closg00
I wish to withdraw/amend my support of SL. I would rather we put our efforts into plucking an overlooked player in-need of an opportunity like Orlando's Brian Roberts. Alternately I would sign him to a 1-year vet minimum deal if we had no other prospects.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:58 pm
by WizarDynasty
roberts seems like a decent offensive burst off the bench for a change of pace but he definitely isn't changing teh culture like a longterm deal with Livingston will.
Wizards will continue be a low iq bunch until they get at least a part-time high bbiq floor general with off the court high level play design aptitude.
An offensive burst player almost never improves the longterm basketball iq of his team which is how you move from mediocre to deep playoff. The team has a need for talent no matter where it comes from but talent with high BBIQ has to be the priority especially with a low bbiq franchise point guard longterm. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL8GxWo6K1M[/youtube]

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:35 pm
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
closg00 wrote:I wish to withdraw/amend my support of SL. I would rather we put our efforts into plucking an overlooked player in-need of an opportunity like Orlando's Brian Roberts. Alternately I would sign him to a 1-year vet minimum deal if we had no other prospects.


Instead of Livingston, who already missed a game hurt, why not give a new guy a shot?

Josh Akognon is pretty similar to Brian Roberts. Scoring guard who can play point. Big-time success in a foreign league. Akognon blew up in SL--the Vegas Summer league.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:19 am
by pancakes3
I would be wary of d-league guards. There are a lot of NBA castoffs that are making d-leaguers look like fools but would never be able to hack if let back into the league. Guys like Marcus Banks who's dropping 18ppg on 50/40/85 shooting percentages, or our old friend Antonio Daniels who's a top 5 pg in the D-League, or Blake Ahearn who consistently tears the d-league apart but never lasts in NBA call-ups.

And not to further crap on our suggestion, CCJ but Akognon isn't even listed at 6 feet. If all-conference stars like Sean Singletary or go further back - Khalid El-Amin can't hack it in the NBA, I don't think hot-handed d-leaguers can.

As for Brian Roberts, in all likelihood he'll pan out like Sundiata Gaines or Eric Maynor.

BTW, all of the guys mentioned thus far are only marginally better than Shelvin Mack. I don't understand why EG found his play to be so egregious that we had to cut him in favor of... Pargo.

Re: Sign Livingston Longterm ASAP #1 Priority Thread!!

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:21 pm
by BigA
he a bust