2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[WallToWall]

What would make you think we could sign Parsons "on the cheap"????

Parsons has bad knees, to go with a couple of surgeries. He lacks lateral movement to play defense at the 3, and the strength/height/reach to play defense at the 4. His offense is his strong point. All that makes him the best place for him on the bench. We are not going to get a starter (assume we resign Beal) through free agent signings, as all our starting positions are pretty much set. With Parsons' injury history and defensive liabilities, most teams looking for a starting PF should shy away from him. If so, that makes him a good target for our teams situation.

[payitforward]

The rumors that we have a strong interest in Darrell Arthur are right along the Grunfail route to nowhere. This is one of the worst rotation 4s in the league.

I'm sure someone will now point out that he shot 38.5% on 3s -- go look at his total shooting %. Among 4s he's in the bottom 10%.

It's 100% we sign him.

[keynote]

Based on what J Michael has been tweeting, it seems like they like Anderson up to a certain price and the focus would be on upgrading the bench unit. Guys like Batum and Parsons are good players, and maybe I'm a homer when I say this but I'd rather have Porter at $5.8 million than Batum at $22 million. So you got $35 mil to spend, who do you sign to improve the bench?

E.g.,
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/747596943019302912[/tweet]

Gortat is a decent starter on a good contract. Morris is okay, I guess. But we're not talking Parish and McHale here. Why not sign a better frontcourt player and shift Morris to the bench? If you're building around Wall, Beal, Porter, and Oubre, then the clear path to upgrading the team is to upgrade one of the starters in the frontcourt. Given that Gortat is making more $, it makes more sense to find a starting PF and shift Morris to a backup role.

[Ed Wood]

That sort of economy and refusal to invest salary commitments except on the very extremes of the salary investment scale, either for players who simply can't be paid what is commensurate with their value because of the league's salary rules or players who represent a close enough facsimile of a replacement level performance (or even better) to outperform close to minimum salaries is a fine enough demonstration of spending discipline either if you're far enough from contention that less efficient expenditures aren't worth it for marginal gains or when you're close enough the top that you need to just be that damn good with your money.

The Wizards are neither so an improved bench will put them squarely in the range of inoffensively irrelevant. It'd be pretty audacious if the team is going to try to tell us that the starting five as assembled is actually going to get any real heavy lifting done. If we're treated to a couple of interviews about how much coaching contributed to the team's falling short of its true destiny as a measurably effective outfit that'll at least be pretty ambitiously dishonest.

[AFM]

Darrell Arthur isn't that big of a step down from Durant. Check out the advanced stats. They're practically interchangeable.

[80sballboy]

So, they're apparently targeting Darrell Arthur... rather than Durant. LOLOLOL. I've never been a fan of Arthur. Even with the NBA going to small ball - which makes up for his lack of strength, he's a well below average backup PF - and that's even with him finally developing an ok 3 point shot. He's a finesse PF with decent athleticism who just doesn't do a whole lot.

What they're doing is putting together a garbage bench to back up their mediocre starting unit. Wiz are not going to be in the playoffs next year without a major move that makes sense, and it seems unlikely they'll make a major move that makes any sense.

They are not targeting Darrell Arthur over Durant. Come on. Durant is not coming here. He's not visiting so they need to fill their bench. I have a bigger problem at not going after guys that you know are better than what you have in Horford or Batum. If you are satisfied with mediocrity, fine. They basically are saying, we drafted Oubre and Porter. They are playing small forward. We traded our 1st round pick for Morris. He's our starting 4. In my opinion, Gortat would be expendable if they can find a better defensive 5 man, but they'd have to double his salary. So if you have all this salary, you better f-ing find a way to get at least 4 quality backups, add Sato, McClellan, maybe Aaron White and another rookie FA. It will still be a 45-46 win team max.

[Dat2U]

Based on what J Michael has been tweeting, it seems like they like Anderson up to a certain price and the focus would be on upgrading the bench unit. Guys like Batum and Parsons are good players, and maybe I'm a homer when I say this but I'd rather have Porter at $5.8 million than Batum at $22 million. So you got $35 mil to spend, who do you sign to improve the bench?

E.g.,
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/747596943019302912[/tweet]

Gortat is a decent starter on a good contract. Morris is okay, I guess. But we're not talking Parish and McHale here. Why not sign a better frontcourt player and shift Morris to the bench? If you're building around Wall, Beal, Porter, and Oubre, then the clear path to upgrading the team is to upgrade one of the starters in the frontcourt. Given that Gortat is making more $, it makes more sense to find a starting PF and shift Morris to a backup role.

Jeez, why in the world would a front office "commit" to having two mediocre starters? Wow. You mean to tell me there's no desire to upgrade? Ernie just feels like he's 'set' at the 4 & 5? What a lazy sonofab*tch! I guess this fool wants to blow his wad on overpaying some bench guys so he can be done by July 1st @ 5pm. I'd actually be okay with going the bench route if I thought they would be smart/frugal & creative about it & add young talent. But no, Ernie as always will blow his wad early on aging, injury prone vets that he has outdated scouting reports on so he use the rest of the time to sit on his fat ass.

This franchise is a laughing stock for good reason. No desire to really compete, they'd rather do just enough to maintain the appearance of competence ... Until things really get bad & fans really stop showing up, I gather Leonsis has little impetus to change status quo. I feel sorry for John Wall who will have wasted a good portion of his career here. If it wasn't for him, the front office would have a much harder job striving for mediocrity.

If your currently still buying season tickets to this crap... let's face it, your getting played for the fool. I went to at least 10 games this past year and paid less than half price for great seats. I'm talking $100 for floor seats that cost over $300. If your paying for season tickets your basically throwing away your money to guys that don't feel they need to provide you with the best product possible. We need to demand better and it has to start with the season ticket holders.

[payitforward]

What would make you think we could sign Parsons "on the cheap"????

Parsons has bad knees, to go with a couple of surgeries. He lacks lateral movement to play defense at the 3, and the strength/height/reach to play defense at the 4. His offense is his strong point. All that makes him the best place for him on the bench. We are not going to get a starter (assume we resign Beal) through free agent signings, as all our starting positions are pretty much set. With Parsons' injury history and defensive liabilities, most teams looking for a starting PF should shy away from him. If so, that makes him a good target for our teams situation.

Well, first off, maybe you and I mean something different by "on the cheap." Lets see what he signs for, and you can tell me if that's the kind of number you had in mind.

[payitforward]

Darrell Arthur isn't that big of a step down from Durant. Check out the advanced stats. They're practically interchangeable.

In fact they are often mistaken for one another -- even by their own mothers! Maybe if we kidnap Durant, we can claim he's really Darrell Arthur.

[Jay81]

We need to sign no one...tank and rebuild again

[deneem4]

Sign
Troy Daniels
Dwayne dedmon

Those 2 should be our under the radar pickups

[dangermouse]

Pau has become a free agent. I'd rather Pau at PF sharing minutes with Morris.

If Anderson signs elsewhere, or becomes too expensive to sign, he could be a decent stopgap while we sort out our frontcourt? He was still impressive on the Bulls

[deneem4]

Pau has become a free agent. I'd rather Pau at PF sharing minutes with Morris.

If Anderson signs elsewhere, or becomes too expensive to sign, he could be a decent stopgap while we sort out our frontcourt? He was still impressive on the Bulls

Pau would be perfect next to Morris rather than next to gortat...

[Ruzious]

So, they're apparently targeting Darrell Arthur... rather than Durant. LOLOLOL. I've never been a fan of Arthur. Even with the NBA going to small ball - which makes up for his lack of strength, he's a well below average backup PF - and that's even with him finally developing an ok 3 point shot. He's a finesse PF with decent athleticism who just doesn't do a whole lot.

What they're doing is putting together a garbage bench to back up their mediocre starting unit. Wiz are not going to be in the playoffs next year without a major move that makes sense, and it seems unlikely they'll make a major move that makes any sense.

They are not targeting Darrell Arthur over Durant. Come on. Durant is not coming here. He's not visiting so they need to fill their bench. I have a bigger problem at not going after guys that you know are better than what you have in Horford or Batum. If you are satisfied with mediocrity, fine. They basically are saying, we drafted Oubre and Porter. They are playing small forward. We traded our 1st round pick for Morris. He's our starting 4. In my opinion, Gortat would be expendable if they can find a better defensive 5 man, but they'd have to double his salary. So if you have all this salary, you better f-ing find a way to get at least 4 quality backups, add Sato, McClellan, maybe Aaron White and another rookie FA. It will still be a 45-46 win team max.

I'm not sure you're really saying anything different from what I said - unless you actually think signing players like Arthur will make a difference. It was kinda obvious that the Wiz weren't involved with Durant when they weren't among the teams he scheduled a meeting with - I was being sarcastic. Unless something startling happens, this isn't even a 40 win team.

[Ruzious]

Sign
Troy Daniels
Dwayne dedmon

Those 2 should be our under the radar pickups

Daniels is an RFA. Why wouldn't his current team match any offer?

[dorianwrite]

Who among the Wizards from last season, not currently under contract, would folks consider possibilities to return? Or who would you ideally like to have return?

Ramon Sessions if he doesn't get the deal he wants from someone else?
Nene on a much, much cheaper contract?
J.J. Hickson for 12th-man forward depth with a nasty streak?

[BigA]

Jeez, why in the world would a front office "commit" to having two mediocre starters?

Because they are sticking to Ted's Plan.

[stevemcqueen1]

I am on board with going after Ryan Anderson. He's a perfect fit for this construction. But you need to bring in a real back up C if you sign him. Neither he nor Morris are credible options there and we'd be soft as hell without a real C capable of playing 20 or so minutes a night. We also can't go into another season knowing we're **** if Gortat goes down. Now that Nene is gone, we truly would be.

[80sballboy]

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/morning-tip-john-wall-weighs-his-free-agency-wish-list-wizards

John Wall stating the obvious but doubtful the Wiz will even get close to getting a rim protector since Biyombo will get overpaid and Whiteside is a max guy. Aldrich I guess is best cheaper alternative. Maybe Oubre develops into a top-notch defender from the wing. A cheaper alternative than Batum is Kent Bazemore, but he'll get starter's money.

[Dark Faze]

We've got zero chance of doing anything but tiring ourselves out and losing games 105 to 115 with a Porter/Anderson (or kieff)/Gortat front court