Wizards medical staff issues

[Higga]

I don't get how/why Ted hasn't completely revamped the medical staff. That should have been priority #1 when taking over.

[JonathanJoseph]

I don't get how/why Ted hasn't completely revamped the medical staff. That should have been priority #1 when taking over.

Yup. Moreso than EG. It's time for a complete housecleaning of everything left in place from the Pollin era.

[Zonkerbl]

Yes it was a massive organizational failure not to have the medical staff on top of the recovery of the player you've spent $170M on.

Well, that about sums it up. That's what makes the whole episode so weird. You just mortgaged your franchise on this guy. You hear reports that he's out running on cement courts, dragging a parachute around the streets of dc. How do you allow that to happen? You either don't know that it's a bad idea, and are therefore incompetent, or you know it's a bad idea but don't do anything about it, which means you are incompetent AND INSANE.

Whoever is responsible for Arenas' rehab plan -- I hope they got FIRED FIRED FIRED. I wish I knew who it was so I could egg their house on halloween.

[Zonkerbl]

I don't get how/why Ted hasn't completely revamped the medical staff. That should have been priority #1 when taking over.

As far as we know, that's what happened. Ted's blog post on the subject is pretty vague -- something like "it's not like we have just one guy. We have a team of guys whose composition changes over the years."

As far as we know that's Ted speak for "Yes I fired everyone but I'm not going to say it in public, that's bad PR."

[Kanyewest]

Add this one to the list

Wall refused to accept the initial diagnosis of a “real, real bad sprain” after X-rays immediately following the game were negative. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Wall clashed with team medical staffers before sitting out Tuesday because he felt something more serious had caused his hand to explode. After a few days of confusion and concern, Wall got the confirmation of bone fractures that he never really wanted, leaving fans of the team with broken hearts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... orts_pop_b

[fishercob]

Add this one to the list

Wall refused to accept the initial diagnosis of a “real, real bad sprain” after X-rays immediately following the game were negative. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Wall clashed with team medical staffers before sitting out Tuesday because he felt something more serious had caused his hand to explode. After a few days of confusion and concern, Wall got the confirmation of bone fractures that he never really wanted, leaving fans of the team with broken hearts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... orts_pop_b

Firstly, it was an "initial" diagnosis based on an X-ray done at Phillips Arena, not a final diagnosis.

Secondly, non-displaced fractures are supposedly difficult to detect on an x-ray. But medicine is trial and error -- always. Doctors use the information that they have to make their best guesses based on data, history, etc., but good doctors miss diagnoses all the time.

I know emotions are running high right now, but to somehow lay blame for John's misfortune at the feet of ownership and the medical staff is misguided IMO.

Also, Randy is vehemently refuting Lee's assertion that Wall clashed with the med staff in a way I have never seen before. One has to wonder why he'd be compelled to do so other than to set the record straight.

[Ruzious]

So we're discussing this on 3 or 4 different threads now - something that's likely a non-issue.

[FAH1223]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-u-k6G4QzA[/youtube]

[Dat2U]

The medical staff they have now is different from the staff they had been using for years. I think a change was made in 2013?

[Kanyewest]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-u-k6G4QzA[/youtube]

Is Michael Lee the one who said "you brought it up"?

[Kanyewest]

Add this one to the list

Wall refused to accept the initial diagnosis of a “real, real bad sprain” after X-rays immediately following the game were negative. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Wall clashed with team medical staffers before sitting out Tuesday because he felt something more serious had caused his hand to explode. After a few days of confusion and concern, Wall got the confirmation of bone fractures that he never really wanted, leaving fans of the team with broken hearts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... orts_pop_b

Firstly, it was an "initial" diagnosis based on an X-ray done at Phillips Arena, not a final diagnosis.

Secondly, non-displaced fractures are supposedly difficult to detect on an x-ray. But medicine is trial and error -- always. Doctors use the information that they have to make their best guesses based on data, history, etc., but good doctors miss diagnoses all the time.

I know emotions are running high right now, but to somehow lay blame for John's misfortune at the feet of ownership and the medical staff is misguided IMO.

Also, Randy is vehemently refuting Lee's assertion that Wall clashed with the med staff in a way I have never seen before. One has to wonder why he'd be compelled to do so other than to set the record straight.

I posted the quote from the Post and wasn't sure what to make from it. But it seems like you are right that Wall didn't really "clash" with the doctors. It just seems like the doctors couldn't observe the injury at first but did ask questions along the way to make sure that Wall was OK. While the x-rays didn't diagnose the injury, Wall still felt the pain and essentially did the opposite of an RG3 and IMO Wall's not playing through injury should be commended rather than ignoring the injury and risking his future.

I will say that Wittman may be compelled to defend the medical staff because a bad reputation on the medical staff gives a bad reputation to the organization from everyone in it.

[FAH1223]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-u-k6G4QzA[/youtube]

Is Michael Lee the one who said "you brought it up"?

yup

[exculpatory]

I am frustrated.

I am a VERY smart doc, but my expertise stops after endocrinology & a well rounded knowledge of Internal Medicine per se. My Ortho knowledge is limited to the athletic injuries I have personally endured - which does not include serious hand/wrist injuries.

[tontoz]

I went to the ER once with a ruptured appendix. The doctor there thought i had a virus and just gave me some painkillers which was like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound.

Stuff happens

[trast66]

How does John's IV for a virus result in fluid on the knee? Not a Doctor, but that seems weird.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

How does John's IV for a virus result in fluid on the knee? Not a Doctor, but that seems weird.

My sense is he can cure this particularly malady with orange juice, worchester sauce and a raw egg.

[FAH1223]

How does John's IV for a virus result in fluid on the knee? Not a Doctor, but that seems weird.

Side effect

https://www.livestrong.com/article/253608-side-effects-of-iv-fluid-over-infusion/

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

How does John's IV for a virus result in fluid on the knee? Not a Doctor, but that seems weird.

Side effect

https://www.livestrong.com/article/253608-side-effects-of-iv-fluid-over-infusion/

Still don’t understand how the fluid ends up pooling in the knee. Why wouldn’t it make its way to the lower extremities— feet and ankles?

[trast66]

How does John's IV for a virus result in fluid on the knee? Not a Doctor, but that seems weird.

Side effect

https://www.livestrong.com/article/253608-side-effects-of-iv-fluid-over-infusion/

Still don’t understand how the fluid ends up pooling in the knee. Why wouldn’t it make its way to the lower extremities— feet and ankles?

Either they are incompetent or untruthful.