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GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby DallasShalDune on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:34 pm

Woo! Great interior D. Too many o-boards for Portland, but they were seriously bothered down low.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby nate33 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:36 pm

I don't think that number is quite as bad as it sounds. A lot of it was Aldridge playing volleyball against the backboard. He had 9 offensive rebounds, but he shot 6-17 on the night. In essence, it was more like 4 offensive rebounds and him shooting 6-12. They also missed 62 shots overall. That's a lot of offensive rebounding opportunities.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby tontoz on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:39 pm

nate33 wrote:McGee has 5 blocks and 0 fouls. Incredible.



With his crazy standing reach and athleticism he should be getting plenty of blocks. Now it looks like he is getting a little smarter going for them. i would still like to see a little boxing out though.

I remember in Josh Smiths rookie year other teams didn't know about his shotblocking and he blocked 10 shots in a game against the Mavs without a foul. That had been done only two other times in NBA history.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby TheBigThree on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:40 pm

Until the very end of the 4th quarter, Blatche played some really great defense on Aldridge.

Interesting that the teams essentially swapped positions after half time. In the first half, we couldn't hit a shot, but we got lots of second chance opportunities while Portland hit their shots but got out rebounded. In the second half this was the exact opposite.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby closg00 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:44 pm

McGee is our defacto game-changer.....for now.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby TGW on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:44 pm

If we had a power forward (ahem Love) that could rebound, this team would be pretty good. A lot of these defensive possessions would be one-and-done if we could grab defensive boards. Loved Javale's energy tonight, but I would love if he could just 2 more defensive boards a game.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby closg00 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:45 pm

TGW wrote:If we had a power forward (ahem Love) that could rebound, this team would be pretty good. A lot of these defensive possessions would be one-and-done if we could grab defensive boards. Loved Javale's energy tonight, but I would love if he could just 2 more defensive boards a game.


+1 Need another rebounder
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby tontoz on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:48 pm

nate33 wrote:I don't think that number is quite as bad as it sounds. A lot of it was Aldridge playing volleyball against the backboard. He had 9 offensive rebounds, but he shot 6-17 on the night. In essence, it was more like 4 offensive rebounds and him shooting 6-12. They also missed 62 shots overall. That's a lot of offensive rebounding opportunities.



The problem is that with all those missed shots the Wizards got only 31 defensive rebounds.There were 8 team rebounds. If you take those away there were 54 potential rebounds on that end and the Blazers got 42% of them.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby dlts20 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:51 pm

Good Win, But........







you already know what Im going to talk about. I just dont get why Kirk has to start over Gil. Kirk is the perfect backup PG. Look at our starting lineup tonight. We dont have 1 consistent scorer on the floor. Our 2 most money scorers are Gil & NY and Flip wants to bring both off the bench. We have to depend on guys like Wall or McGee or Kirk or Gee or Dray to score for us? Just start Gil. It makes so much more sense. I also think its becoming clearer that Gil & Wall "can" play together like I said. Wall just needs to get his timing back & Gil just needs his J to start falling again.

The thing Im most upset about is the sked. We are going out West right now. If youve followed the Wiz then you know Gil always finds his rythm out West. You going to put him on the bench against a running team like the Suns who has Nash or either Gil's boy Richardson to guard him? He always goes off in situations like that. Then going back home to LA to play the Lakers? Thats 2 places he dropped 54 & 60pts and we bring him off the bench. No PG the Lakers have can guard a motivated Gil and Kobe is too big to guard him.

Then we go to Sac? That sked has the Arenas takeover written all over it. He could single handily keep us in those games or win those games but we want him on the bench for Kirk and we want us to start off looking like crap every game. Starting every game with Wall wanting to pass but having no go to scorer to pass it to. Then he has to be the go to scorer which he is not. Then we end up bringing Gil in anyways because we havent gotten anything going. Just start the normal lineup Flip, you idiot.

I just could see Gil & Wall looking great out West in uptempo games. We could start looking like a different team. Look at that lineup & rotations tonight. We arent going to win hardly any games like that and if we do, it will all be stressful dog fights. We already have NY for the bench scoring. NY & Kirk are a great match on the bench together. I just dont get it. Its just setting everything back. Then by time he switches it up, everything will be too far gone. We will already be in suck mode.

I mean, are we seriously going to have Gil benched for Hinrich? Again, this isnt a Hinrich diss. He can play but his role on this team is the backup PG, not the starting 2 you fool, espically when we have no consistent scorers in the starting unit. I could see us being explosive if Wall & Gil get going at the same time with guys like Dray & McGee in the frontcourt. It sholdnt even be for debate. Gil's playing very well right now except his J is way off. You know one of these games he's going to get it back and we are going to waste that. It doesnt make sense.

Gil can do things like Lebron did the other night as far as having a 20pt quarter. Kirk isnt capable of that. Why Flip? Ive said all along that its going to take a Hinrich injury for him to be put in his proper role and I dont want to wish injuries on anyone but thats just how dumb Flip is right now. It makes no sense. Gil starting with Kirk & NY on the bench is just the perfect mix. Our team would look night & day with that group but maybe Flip is just tanking it or something. If youre going to tank, it would help to build up Gil's stock in the process though
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby tontoz on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:59 pm

dlts20 wrote:Good Win, But........
you already know what Im going to talk about. I just dont get why Kirk has to start over Gil. Kirk is the perfect backup PG. Look at our starting lineup tonight. We dont have 1 consistent scorer on the floor. Our 2 most money scorers are Gil & NY and Flip wants to bring both off the bench.



When was the last time both guys were brought off the bench? It didn't happen tonight.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby dlts20 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:59 pm

tontoz wrote:
dlts20 wrote:Good Win, But........
you already know what Im going to talk about. I just dont get why Kirk has to start over Gil. Kirk is the perfect backup PG. Look at our starting lineup tonight. We dont have 1 consistent scorer on the floor. Our 2 most money scorers are Gil & NY and Flip wants to bring both off the bench.



When was the last time both guys were brought off the bench? It didn't happen tonight.

because NY was hurt and missed the game
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby dlts20 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:00 pm

lol, did you hear what Flip just said? He's such a tool. He talked about how Gil talked with Sam before the season about wanting to come off the bench and how it would be best for the team but when it came around to really doing it, I dont know if he still felt that way.

Basically its just what I thought. Gil was saying that stuff just to be a good team guy but didnt think Flip was dumb enough to really do it, espically after he had been in the starting lineup all this time now and has had some big games. Atleast bench him for a star or a guy like Wall but you dont bench him for Hinrich.

He could play well out West but it still wont be what it couldve been if starting. If he gets 30 off the bench against the Suns, that is a game where he wouldve got 45 if he was starting but Flip will be too dumb to even realize that
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby tontoz on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:07 pm

dlts20 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
dlts20 wrote:Good Win, But........
you already know what Im going to talk about. I just dont get why Kirk has to start over Gil. Kirk is the perfect backup PG. Look at our starting lineup tonight. We dont have 1 consistent scorer on the floor. Our 2 most money scorers are Gil & NY and Flip wants to bring both off the bench.



When was the last time both guys were brought off the bench? It didn't happen tonight.

because NY was hurt and missed the game



You didnt answer the question.

Did it occur to you that Young being out might have been the reason Gil didn't start? You are complaining about something that isn't even happening. Arenas had started 9 straight games.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby DMVleGeND on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:08 pm

Great game by the Wiz. Great D too. They played with high energy, and played great interior D.

I was impressed with Blatche tonight. He has gotten bashed A LOT this season and it has been warranted, but tonight, he played good defense. He obviously isn't in the best shape physically, but today, he didn't just let his defender waltz by him like in other games. He stayed in front of his man the best he could and bodied them. His shot selection was solid too. Very good game from AB.

I was VERY impressed with McGee. He NEVER takes plays off and blocks shots like a mad-man. He will only get better too. As he gets stronger and adds post moves to his offensive repertoire, he can become an all-star.
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Re: GT - Portland Trail Blazers @ Washington (12-3-2010)

Postby clancy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:09 pm

dlts20 wrote:lol, did you hear what Flip just said? He's such a tool. He talked about how Gil talked with Sam before the season about wanting to come off the bench and how it would be best for the team but when it came around to really doing it, I dont know if he still felt that way.

Basically its just what I thought. Gil was saying that stuff just to be a good team guy but didnt think Flip was dumb enough to really do it, espically after he had been in the starting lineup all this time now and has had some big games. Atleast bench him for a star or a guy like Wall but you dont bench him for Hinrich.

He could play well out West but it still wont be what it couldve been if starting. If he gets 30 off the bench against the Suns, that is a game where he wouldve got 45 if he was starting but Flip will be too dumb to even realize that


You know, it's kind of fascinating to watch you reinterpret everything to match your definitions of Flip as an idiot. Seems like it must be hard work.
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