dlts20 wrote:PART 2
Thats why most of those assist are just basic. The PG is only just throwing it back to the guy off the pick with a regular pass or feeding a guy like NY off a curl. Think about it, when was the last time youve seen Wall one on one with a big man? Do you remember us killing teams with Gil after Wood or AJ set the pick and then Gil was one on one with the Center or PF? It was unstoppable. Thats why we always gave the Cavs hell with them having slow Z. Thats why I thought we would beat them last year when they had both Z & Shaq. The 2 slowest guys in the league. Ofcourse we never ran it and we had to score on there top notch D with just a regular basic set thats all congested. Wall is mad fast & explosive. If we did that with him, he would score or get fouled every single time. He misses alot of layups but most of them are how I said. He has to force it and its a tough contested layup that looks easier then what it is because he just blows by guys.
Look at Wade always getting our bigs in foul trouble. Look at all the little guards going by McGee and scoring or causing us to rotate for something bad to happen. We never do that when it should be our #1 play. I would run it all game until someone stopped it. We would give Boston & the Heat hell with that with Shaq & Z. They would never ever stop Wall and he's a good passer on top of it. You wonder why he gets alot of turnovers now and why his passes get tipped alot. Its because its so easy to stop and you can see everything coming with our stop pick & roll system. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate it for everything. If Flip has a system then great but you can mix in that regular pick play sometimes and against teams with bad defenses or slow bigs then you should do it a ton.
It makes me sick that we dont take advantage of Shaq but he kills us on the other end. It makes me sick that we dont run any real pick plays on a small bad defender like Nash when they have no interior defenders. There is no way in hell the Suns would stop Wall in one of those systems. No way. Just rewatch our games and see what Im talking about. Sometimes Wall looks bad but he really doesnt have much of a chance on alot of plays. He always has the defender right in front of him no matter what he does even though he's so explosive. Its that system! Get Flip out. Im sick of seeing it. Its not that bad for guys like Cassell & Billups because thats there game anyways. They dont want to go to the rim. They cant blow by bigs or get teams in foul trouble. All they want to do is that pull up J off the screen or pass it back to guys anyways.
To me you are taking away our biggest threat. Give Wall to a ton of other coaches and he gets to the line 10x a night and probably is a 20 & 10 guy without even having a jumper. Go talk to the Pistons fans & Wolves fans. They say his system is just designed for jumpers. Thats all we do. Dont tell me that NY cant ever get to the hoop. He doesnt have much of a chance in this sytem. Dray can get in the post more but he is right in that he's mostly outside setting screens. Thats why KG is even more of a jump shooter then a low post guy and even his post moves are mostly fades. I hate it. The only shot Wall will get in the halfcourt forever will be a pull up jumper. Is that what you want? Again, even then its not high percentage.
There is no doubt that his J will probably get better but still it sucks. Lets say he does make some of them. He still wont be getting to the line and we still will be a jump shooting team. I remember us even playing against great defensive/offensive bigs like Howard or Duncan and we could still beat them or play with them because of that play and Gil could get them in foul trouble where they would have to sit. That will never happen anymore. We wont ever come close to making a Howard or any other good big sit because we dont do that 1 thing that every team does and the saddest part is we probably have a top 3 guy along with Rose & Wade who would kill with it. Sometimes people, even Wiz fans say Wall is good but he needs other guys around him to make him look good. He cant do it on his own like a Rose or other guys can but thats B.S. Its the system. Its dependant on the other guys playing well but if he was in a normal system that he could carry a team or dominate a game on a consistent basis. It would make us look like a totally different team
For starts, the first play of the Boston game he took the middle hard on a PnR.
Setting strong screens has been an issue with this team all year but the lack of it isn't by design.
McGee has been releasing to early all year but did better against Boston
Yi has been as terrible releasing to early, but I have seen marked improvement lately.
Dray does an good job of setting them.
Seraphin is a monster at doing it but he hasnt been playing that much.
I wrote about this a ton earlier this year. It has been a problem but they are getting better. It isn't by design. Its players being more concerned with getting open themselves then setting the strong pick first. Flip has even commented on this as a problem. The screen setter are doing much better but Wall has to be patient until the pick is set. He moves to early to often.
Half of a successful PnR is the PG waiting for the pick to be set. Wall often starts to drive to early.
There were lots of effective picks this last game. Wall did a ton of them in the 4th driving right down the middle. Young team. Young PG. Not design.
9:23 - McGee high screen. McGee holds and Wall drives off it one on one with the center. Gets fouled.
8:55 Lewis sets a strong screen and rubs off Rondo. Wall gets it back to Lewis for 2.
6:45 PnR Lewis & Wall - Lewis rubbed off Rondo
6:15 Lewis mixes it up and releases early heading to the baseline 3 wide open but missed.
4:26 Wall out with 2 fouls after big baby wasn't called for a moving pick on a fast break.
3:47 Mastafa PnR to Lewis on the wing shoots a floater for 2
3:15 Yi n Nick PnR but Nick doesn't take it. Yi actually stayed strong. Then when Nick ran the other way he popped back to the 3 and passes to Mastafa for the open 3 he missed.
3:00 after the rebound. Seraphin showed for a PnR with Matafa but never set up and curled to the hoop early. Rookie.
:22 Mastafa n Yi top right. Yi holds it again. Baby shows, Nate goes over the top. Mastafa makes a great 1 on 1 spin move going to the hoop. Stops short and pops and score +1
9:35 PnR Wall n McGee right top. McGee does pretty good. Wall fades to the corner. Bostons big follows so Nate and the Big are on Wall. He passes to Yi top who swings to AT to Martin who feeds to post to McGee who does a sweeping hook for 2. Nice play.
9:00 PnR Wall n Yi. Yi runs to set the high screen but Wall starts dribble right before Yi is even set. This is in semi transition. Baby shows to cut off the right dribble because he was already there. Nate goes under and Baby rolls to intercept the Wall pass to Yi. That was on Wall. He never let the play set up. Yi actually set another good pick. He is getting better at this.
6:48 McGee high post. Start to run for the Alley opp because the middle was open. Doesn't get the pass so he comes back up to set the pick but Wall starts to drive before he gets there. Rondo goes over the top trailing Wall who is one on one down the middle with on Big Turkey in front of him. Wall has McGee cutting to the hoop with him but passes out to Nick instead of finishing to the hoop.
5:40 PnR Wall n Dray top of key. Dray set a first pick and set off to get Rondo. Dray picks Rondo and he never gets back in the play. Not over or under. Dray stops him cold. Garnett can't cover and Wall drive down the middle for a lay up. ( Best Example of a PnR )
Wall started top right and let the play set up then went hard.
4:27. They run the same play as above. This time Garnett shows strong over the top as does Rondo. Dray never clips Rondo because Wall start to drive before he is set. Rondo recovers and takes the right side drive to the middle from Wall as Dray cuts to the hoop with him but Garnett is covering. The middle has two Boston players in it so Wall passes out to AT top wing and he get fouled as he comes across them middle. Dray could have taken a better angle on the pick and Wall could have been more patient. Just a split sec off in timing.
4:05 Wall n McGee. Again, Wall starts to drive before McGee is in place so McGee only gets a weak knee check which Rondo moves right past. Totally ineffective. Walls fault.
Last play of the half. Wall iso on top. No PnR. Drive the middle to score.
Again, the second half Wall took the middle several times.