Re: Jordan Crawford
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:21 pm
Why was he traded for so little? He's a great scorer.
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Soup's Uncle wrote:^Because of Ernie Grunfeld.
MJG wrote:fishercob wrote:Per Aldridge, he's gone. I don't wish harm on the guy, but did not enjoy watching him play and glad he's off the team. Bets on who turns on him first between KG and the Boston fan base?
Ditto. Regardless of the details of the trade, I'm really glad he's off the team. He has probably been my least favorite Wizard since he joined us, and which is really saying something since that includes time where Baltche was still on the roster. Good riddance.
Troubadour wrote:Why was he traded for so little? He's a great scorer.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Troubadour wrote:Why was he traded for so little? He's a great scorer.
Ernie Grunfeld is challenged.
Ted Leonsis and he have a really good friendship -relationship -rapport --whatever it is that would let one man suck so long and be paid by the other as an employee.
At this point nothing would surprise me from Grunfeld/Leonsis. If there's a broken player (trading for a guy with an ACL and on an expiring???) player, this GM will acquire him.
It's almost like Grunfeld is a sadist who enjoys making Wizard fans angry. As long as Ted Leonsis has a team full of nice guys and they put butts in the seats at Verizon, they don't give a damn what anybody thinks. Their moves are perplexingly idiotic and just keep getting dumber by the day.
Troubadour wrote:Why was he traded for so little? He's a great scorer.
hands11 wrote:http://www.sportsmedia101.com/bostonceltics/2013/11/09/jordan-crawford-finding-early-success-at-point-guard-for-the-boston-celtics/
Jordan Crawford Finding Early Success at Point Guard for the Boston Celtics
November 9th, 2013 at 1:25 PM
In the opening preseason game against the Toronto Raptors Crawford saw some time at the point guard position, and since then he has developed into the most trustworthy point guard on the team.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... n-crawford
Boston is 3-0 with Crawford as the starting PG. Subbing in while their starter Rondo is out. Now why didn't we think of that. Oh, because we needed to start Pargo, or Price or Mustafa instead.
Celtics just beat Miami, in Miami, on a back to back after another road win in Orlando.
I hope Crawford gets it going as a PG. I always liked watching him play, specially when he got it rolling.
Knighthonor wrote:hands11 wrote:http://www.sportsmedia101.com/bostonceltics/2013/11/09/jordan-crawford-finding-early-success-at-point-guard-for-the-boston-celtics/
Jordan Crawford Finding Early Success at Point Guard for the Boston Celtics
November 9th, 2013 at 1:25 PM
In the opening preseason game against the Toronto Raptors Crawford saw some time at the point guard position, and since then he has developed into the most trustworthy point guard on the team.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... n-crawford
Boston is 3-0 with Crawford as the starting PG. Subbing in while their starter Rondo is out. Now why didn't we think of that. Oh, because we needed to start Pargo, or Price or Mustafa instead.
Celtics just beat Miami, in Miami, on a back to back after another road win in Orlando.
I hope Crawford gets it going as a PG. I always liked watching him play, specially when he got it rolling.
didnt you block me and call me a troll for saying just this that you are saying now? so you have a change of tone now? how about an apology?
hands11 wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfjo02.html
His improved eff is holding up. The question is, how will it project moving forward now that his role has changed again. If they are going to use him for only 16-17 min a game and most of it is off ball, I think his numbers go down.
If they use him more then that and give him the ball early enough in the game for him to find his rhythm and then move him off ball and mix it up, I think he stay the same or improves.
They also need to allow him to drive enough that he can get to the line. They need to find 24-26 minutes for him. With Beal playing 30-32 a game at SG, that only leaves 16-18 mins. There is the problem. They need to decide on Crawford at PG or Price for those extra 6-8 minutes. Since Price can walk on the floor and play his game at any time as a pure PG, it would work best to limit his minutes some and give them to Crawford. That would get the most out of what you have.
Wall 30, Crawford 6, Price 12
Beal 30, Crawford 18
That would work. In games that Wall is out of control like last game, put Price in. He has been running the team well with structure.
PS - I bet Wall starts tonight. They need to get him out there with Nene, Beal, Web and Oak to start the game so he can chill out instead of playing all out of control. Price and Crawford should be able to work it out. Price will defer to him sometimes and play off ball for the 3 which he can do and other times Crawford can do that. That would get him involved more.
I would also consider moving Trevor A to the starting line up to balance things out. Yeah Wall could use another 3 point shooter but that second group need that vet scorer as well and Wall, Beal and Nene should be enough scoring for the first group. Trevor A and Okafor will help anchor the D. I would try both and see how it works.
There is still a hole to work out in the front court. Kevin and Ves some nights. Kevin and Booker others. But depending on match up, both could suck. What they really need is a Gortat at center so Kevin can be the second PF. Thats the move they need to figure out. They have Booker, Ves and Singleton to offer up in a trade. Then Okafor can come off the bench next year and after that they sign him cheap to do the same for 2-3 year. That keep continuity. They would have a new starting center and solid back up. Nene and Kevin are the PF and you have someone backing that up. Booker would be fine in that roll and you can aways draft players for that as well.
So Ves is definitely on the bubble. If he is going to stick around, he better get a lot better soon. Its hard to keep a 6th pick as a 3rd PF. Again, to bad they didn't draft Nikola. He would have fit perfectly with what they need.
But it can still work.
hands11 wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfjo02.html
His improved eff is holding up. The question is, how will it project moving forward now that his role has changed again. If they are going to use him for only 16-17 min a game and most of it is off ball, I think his numbers go down.
If they use him more then that and give him the ball early enough in the game for him to find his rhythm and then move him off ball and mix it up, I think he stay the same or improves.
They also need to allow him to drive enough that he can get to the line. They need to find 24-26 minutes for him. With Beal playing 30-32 a game at SG, that only leaves 16-18 mins. There is the problem. They need to decide on Crawford at PG or Price for those extra 6-8 minutes. Since Price can walk on the floor and play his game at any time as a pure PG, it would work best to limit his minutes some and give them to Crawford. That would get the most out of what you have.
Wall 30, Crawford 6, Price 12
Beal 30, Crawford 18
That would work. In games that Wall is out of control like last game, put Price in. He has been running the team well with structure.
PS - I bet Wall starts tonight. They need to get him out there with Nene, Beal, Web and Oak to start the game so he can chill out instead of playing all out of control. Price and Crawford should be able to work it out. Price will defer to him sometimes and play off ball for the 3 which he can do and other times Crawford can do that. That would get him involved more.
I would also consider moving Trevor A to the starting line up to balance things out. Yeah Wall could use another 3 point shooter but that second group need that vet scorer as well and Wall, Beal and Nene should be enough scoring for the first group. Trevor A and Okafor will help anchor the D. I would try both and see how it works.
There is still a hole to work out in the front court. Kevin and Ves some nights. Kevin and Booker others. But depending on match up, both could suck. What they really need is a Gortat at center so Kevin can be the second PF. Thats the move they need to figure out. They have Booker, Ves and Singleton to offer up in a trade. Then Okafor can come off the bench next year and after that they sign him cheap to do the same for 2-3 year. That keep continuity. They would have a new starting center and solid back up. Nene and Kevin are the PF and you have someone backing that up. Booker would be fine in that roll and you can aways draft players for that as well.
So Ves is definitely on the bubble. If he is going to stick around, he better get a lot better soon. Its hard to keep a 6th pick as a 3rd PF. Again, to bad they didn't draft Nikola. He would have fit perfectly with what they need.
But it can still work.