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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby Knighthonor on Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:52 am

So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby montestewart on Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:55 am

I'm holding out until you admit EG is a 38DDD
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby AWIZZINGBULLET on Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:26 am

Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby noworriesinmd on Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:09 am

Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


I disagree he is a bust, Ernie's plan is working perfectly.

1. Get as many ping pong balls as you can in 2012/13
2. Draft the most memorable kisser in draft history
3. Make sure Washington is not a top tier FA destination, because we "MIGHT" get knuckleheads

Vesely is just a bust using the above.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby closg00 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:06 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


Jan Vesely wouldn't have been a good pick at 17 either, he is 2nd round material at-best because he has no basketball skills.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby hands11 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:43 am

Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


After 8 games into his second season when all the team had at PG Price with Pargo backing him up. That would be a good time.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby hands11 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:00 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


Wall, Beal, Nene now

Wall, Beal, Kevin next if he can prove he isn't a baby hughie

future .. They will see what Ves becomes along with Singleton, Booker, Crawford. They will also draft, sign or trade for what they need.

But I forget, the sky is falling so all that is true is the record 7 games into the season. Wall and Nene will never play another NBA game in their lives. Ves is a bust 7 games into his second year without those players. Beal is bust 7 games into his first season at age 19. Kid is washed up.
From 2008 to 2011 How many games did Nene not play. Answer 12
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby AWIZZINGBULLET on Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:20 pm

closg00 wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


Jan Vesely wouldn't have been a good pick at 17 either, he is 2nd round material at-best because he has no basketball skills.


His lack of offensive skill is what made the pick at 6 so obviously ridiculous, but I do like Jan Vesely's hustle at that size, at that position, he has good instincts, length and athleticism so I think he was 1st rd worthy. Grunfeld screwed everything up in reaching to replace the intagibles that Andray Blatche lacked---overlooking Vesely's weaknesses and banking on him to develop an all-around game in the process.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby Kanyewest on Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:35 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


While I agree that EG could have done better, it is unreasonable to expect him to get a big 3 of those caliber of OKC or Miami in the last 3 drafts. Even an ideal draft of Wall, Faried, + whoever turns out to be the best wouldn't measure up to those big 3s.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby AWIZZINGBULLET on Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:12 pm

hands11 wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


Wall, Beal, Nene now

Wall, Beal, Kevin next

future .. They will see what Ves becomes along with Singleton, Booker, Crawford. They will also draft, sign or trade for what they need.

But I forget, the sky is falling so all that is true is the record 7 games into the season. Wall and Nene will never play another NBA game in their lives. Ves is a bust 7 games into his second year without those players. Beal is bust 7 games into his first season at age 19. Kid is washed up.


The verdict is still out on Vesely ALONE. We know who Singleton, Booker, and Crawford are.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby AWIZZINGBULLET on Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:34 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So when are you all going to admit Jan Vesely is a bust?


It's sad because I think Vesely is more so proof that Ernie Grunfeld is a bust. Vesely would've been a nicer addition had he been picked at 17, somewhere around the spot Seraphin was selected.

Had the 6th pick been used correctly the Wizards would have the core of the starting lineup complete right now, instead the team is still missing that piece.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh

Durant, Harden, Westbrook

Wall, Beal, ???

I hope I don't have to look at Grunfeld violently chewing his stupid gum, wearing that stupid poker face in D.C. for too much longer when everyone knows he doesn't measure up to other GM's . Pull off another lopsided trade that favors the Wizards and then be gone.


While I agree that EG could have done better, it is unreasonable to expect him to get a big 3 of those caliber of OKC or Miami in the last 3 drafts. Even an ideal draft of Wall, Faried, + whoever turns out to be the best wouldn't measure up to those big 3s.


There's nothing that says to me that Wall and Beal can't form a legitimate big 3 in D.C.. That would've been in order had Grunfeld not followed up the drafting of Wall by using the top pick on potential rather than a sure thing. OKC's big three wasn't perfect but they were extremely good, all very talented and all brought in one behind the other. I'm not saying the Wizards could've duplicated OKC's big 3 in productivity but they could've duplicated their model of bringing in unquestioned talent through the draft each year, instead Grunfeld put that on hold by selecting Vesely.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby loot on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:42 pm

Starting tonight.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby queridiculo on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:45 pm

Level of excitement :|

Let's start our worst post defender against one of the better frontcourts in the league. Makes total sense.
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Re: Jan Vesely

Postby loot on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:57 pm

Kevin still on the bench as well. Meh. :(
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Re: Jan Vesely

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